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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:34 AM
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Supreme Court of Canada Rules Gitmo an illegal Operation
An unsurprising ruling affords cold comfort for Omar Khadr

OMAR EL AKKAD

May 24, 2008

OTTAWA -- Long before the Supreme Court of Canada issued a judgment yesterday ordering the Canadian government to hand over interrogation documents to Omar Khadr's defence lawyers, Ottawa saw the writing on the wall.

Earlier this year, a Foreign Affairs official was dispatched to Guantanamo Bay to show U.S. military defence and prosecution lawyers an example of the kind of documents that would be released if the Supreme Court decision didn't go the government's way.

The purpose of the meeting was to gauge whether the military lawyers saw any potentially classified information in the documents. (In the Guantanamo Bay military commission system - a system that just a few days ago released a heavily redacted version of a publicly available New York Times article - there isn't much information that can't potentially be deemed classified.)

Yesterday's Supreme Court decision came as no surprise, and likely does little to help Mr. Khadr's legal case in Guantanamo Bay; defence lawyers had already seen much of the information deemed releasable.

Instead, the ruling's importance lies in the fact that it represents another setback for the Canadian government, which has so far strongly resisted acting on Mr. Khadr's behalf. Indeed, for a defence team that readily admits that Mr. Khadr's only hope is for the Canadian government to act, a Supreme Court ruling that says Guantanamo Bay was essentially an illegal operation is a significant coup.

Defence lawyers were quick to note the symbolic significance of the ruling yesterday, rather than its practical effect.

"I think the most important aspect of it is that the Supreme Court has said that Guantanamo Bay is illegal," said Lieutenant-Commander Bill Kuebler, Mr. Khadr's U.S. military lawyer. "And yet the Canadian government continues to do nothing to intervene on behalf of Omar Khadr."

The Supreme Court judges were careful in their portrayal of Guantanamo as illegal. The judges relied on U.S. Supreme Court decisions from 2004 and 2006 that found various aspects of the system to be in violation of the law. >>>>>snip

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080524.KHADRTRIAL24/TPStory/National
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:49 AM
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1. so it begins, the march to justice
I have thought this would happen, today is the first step away from the brink, the first
reaffirmation of the inherent right of the individual against imprisonment w/o charges
or w/o a trial.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 12:29 PM
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2. I hope so even Carter said yesterday
that Bush better stay in this country after he retires.

I don't expect anything to happen with the courts
in this country for many years.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 01:39 PM
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3. yes, I agree esp. when I see this latest argument
that it was best that 2000 wasn't contested becuz it has lead to a re-evaluation of the
GOP and the neocon mentality. I say no, many have suffered and paid with their lives
for our failed leadership over the last 8 years.

The bottom line is that we either have rule of law or we don't, and I think in many ways
the bush presidency was unfettered by laws which is a very dangerous precedent to set.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 01:56 PM
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4. So now what?
Edited on Mon May-26-08 01:57 PM by Journalgrrl
The US has made it clear that they will just do whatever they want (cheney:"So?")

will the Un take this ruling as legal beginnings to getting the bastards to the Hague?


anyone know what the interantionel community can/would do to stop this Bushit? Sometimes I think the answer HAS to come from our own democracy, or it just isn't going to work...
but at other times I wish the international community could/would grow enough balls to come together and tell the US administration that humanity demands better for those people we are stomping on ...(uh, and the genocide we are comitting is NOT allowed!)

so where's the next step coming from? will the mounties storm across the border? :rofl:

edit: bad typing
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 02:13 PM
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5. Thank You Canada for your Honest Ruling Wake up
Congress and Supreme Court and Military FBI and CIA

your not fooling ANYBODY

Your suppose to be serving the people of America not the NWO
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