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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:08 PM
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Help me out here, please?
A Repug acquaintance just sent me this article that cites a study showing major media tilts to the left. Help me debunk this?

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx

Media Contacts News Releases About UCLA

Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist
By Meg Sullivan| 12/14/2005 5:36:31 PMWhile the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left.

These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly.

"I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican," said Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study's lead author. "But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions are."
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:12 PM
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1. I Wrote An Essay On This "Study"
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:20 PM
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7. Manny - if I knew you had already reviewed I'd have not bothered to respond - very nice as always
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:13 PM
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2. FAIR came to mind right away - two pages from their site
Edited on Tue May-27-08 10:13 PM by JoeIsOneOfUs
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:13 PM
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3. Always always debunk this "liberal media" meme with
WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?

Rupert Murdoch - right wing media king

Reverend Moon - crazy preacher and right wing donor. (My favorite Moon story is that he was part of Ashcroft's anointing with vegetable oil when he became AG.)

Disney - right wing company

Viacom - right wing company

Now don't you know that the owners dictate the content of the news?

Librul media my arse.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:00 PM
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13. Don't forget General Electric...
...they own NBC.

GE's CEO, Jeff Immelt, has donated much to the GOP.

For the nasty media entanglements, click this link from The Nation.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:15 PM
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4. direct response from Media Matters to that publication
This one pretty much covers it all!

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512220003

Former fellows at conservative think tanks issued flawed UCLA-led study on media's "liberal bias"



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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:40 PM
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10. great article
Best thing I've read all night.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:16 PM
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5. This reminds me of something Bill Moyers said...
...when asked about this very subject, he said (and I'm paraphrasing) it was because the GOP confuses "liberalism" with "journalism".
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:43 PM
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11. :-) I'm sure he has excellent articles too. nt
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:47 PM
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12. I am sure he does, but I heard him say this on TV. n/t
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:18 PM
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6. the left-leaning NAACP/human rights are "left"/and op-ed/editorials don't count
It then uses the ADA vote preference as the standard - there is no similar conservative bench mark used/

That means when things are bi-partisan they are assigned a "left" score.

"surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican" refers to an opt-in survey with about 5000 responses - not very "scientific"
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:28 PM
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8. One thing that jumps out at me
They used the number of times a program cited a liberal or conservative group in a story such as NAACP or heritage foundation.

A liberal program would ignore conservative groups, A conservative program would cite a liberal group in order to attack them. It seems to not give any weight to the stories meant to put liberals in a bad light.

It said that it was an objective study, but someone drew a line somewhere.

Liberals give press conferences and get on TV, conservatives say nothing or issue some of the most boring press releases ever.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:35 PM
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9. ideally, centrist = fluff
"Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist."

:rofl:



:puke:
dp
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:06 PM
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14. Media should lean Liberal in a free society in order to be open
Edited on Tue May-27-08 11:06 PM by The Wielding Truth
to the opinions of everyman. Only a repressive society would worry that the press was being too liberal.The truth must be ferreted out and a fact checking comparative investigative unfettered and unlobbied press can best clean out corruption.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:06 AM
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15. it's in scottie's book--if the "liberal" media had done its job we wouldn't be in this war n/t
Edited on Wed May-28-08 01:11 AM by orleans
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