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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:53 AM
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Is it wrong for the US to have troops in Afghanistan?
There seem to be a mix of opinions within the anti-war movement. Everyone agrees that the US should withdraw from Iraq, but some feel we are chasing bogeymen in caves in Afghanistan.

Is Al Quaeda really a threat to us? Why do we never seem to hear any progress on Afghanistan? Why haven't they got Bin Laden after all these years? What are we doing there?
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:55 AM
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1. It's profitable
And that's all our government cares about.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:56 AM
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2. I think it's wrong in that we're not really serious about Bin Laden.
Right after we invaded and nearly caught OBL, we were all set to catch him, it was pitched as if OBL were cornered and the US made a big deal about how they were going to let the local military (afghani) operatives make the final catch, and I said right then that they weren't serious. The US military doesn't go all the way across the world to make a catch and then letsomeone else take the credit. I believe they let him go purposefully, and covered it up by claiming to let hte locals get credit for the final capture and then blaming them for bungling it up.

So, yes, I think it's wrong for us to have troops in AFghanistan.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 11:57 AM
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3. not as long as they help keep the opium trade going
:sarcasm:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:00 PM
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4. We're still in Afghanistan?! This I didn't even know.
:shrug:

:sarcasm: that I hope is self-evident...

There are far better ways to neutralize al Qaeda but they don't play well on the news.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:00 PM
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5. Yes it is in the sense that we do
you can't defeat an idealogy with firepower
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:06 PM
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7. Firepower sure slowed down Nazism
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Finn Polke Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:44 PM
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11. Good point
WWII was a fight among capitalist competitors, and if you fought against the Axis powers you had to fight fascism, at least until you smashed it. Then, you could re-arm the former combatants, and under your command attack trade unions, like what happened in Japan.

I am not saying that WWII wasn't a fight against Nazism---it was for many people, just saying that the root causes of that war were economic.

So, is Afganistan an economic prize that US and allied Western corporations want? Sure it is. Afganistan, Iran and Iraq need to be dominated by the oil companies---and China kept out---otherwise the powerbrokers of the West will be at great risk of losing a lot more than cheap oil.

That is why the US military is there and will not leave unless it is forced out by US citizens, progressive people every where, and most importantly the people of Afganistan.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:31 PM
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13. Slowed, but didn't stop.
It just moved to Texas.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 01:36 PM
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14. There it is. "The Muslims are Nazis" meme.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:04 PM
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6. Feingold strongly supports having troops in Afghanistan
and he has been strongly against the Iraq invasion since day one. I have a great deal of faith in him, and there are very few issues on which he doesn't take a reasonable, progressive position.

But if we can't even bring Bin Laden to justice after 7 years, what's the point? Aren't we supposed to have the most capable military in the world?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:26 PM
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10. most capable military? not anymore, these sickening
thugs are using these men/women in the military for their own selfish greed and abuse of power, it is not their a$$es on the line. They don't care. And getting, if ever, they get Bin Laden they have created alot more.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:23 PM
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8. yes

As it is wrong to have troops in Japan, Korea, Germany, Deigo Garcia, Columbia, the Balkans.........

Imperialism sucks, however you put lipstick on the pig.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:25 PM
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9. I'm ok with it
In that military action is supported by, & participated in by the UN - Canada, Holland, England, Denmark, etc. Its not just US troops chasing the Taliban.

I'd like to see more effort, frankly. Infrastructure improvements, education in addition to killing.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 12:52 PM
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12. Well, considering that 89% of the attackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia and UAE...
Both countries with business and personal ties to the Bush Family and Cheney's Halliburton, then "yes," it is wrong to have troops in Afghanistan.
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