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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 03:58 PM
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What "Healthy" person has one hundred and fifty pages a year of medical records ?
Just since 2000 McCain has twelve hundred pages in his Medical records...
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Captain Angry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:03 PM
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1. I think that Jon Stewart was right.
They just used a huge font.

But to be serious, somebody with the skin problems and past history he has, there are a lot more checkups than a normal person.

He also probably travels significantly more than an average person of his age.

There was one hell of a list of pharmaceuticals he was on as well if I recall.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:04 PM
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2. I probably don't have 1200 total for 49 years
That is what I consider healthy.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:05 PM
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3. You don't know much about medical records, do you?
Edited on Thu May-29-08 04:49 PM by silverweb
:D

Each and every diagnostic test has its own page(s). Each and every procedure has its own page(s). Each dictated physician's report has its own page(s). Doctor's medication orders have their own pages. Doctor's handwritten progress notes have their own pages. Nursing notes have their own pages.

They add up fast. Considering McCain's age and his history of cancer (diagnosis, treatment series, and frequent followup tests/examinations), a combined total of 1200 pages in 8 years isn't surprising at all.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:07 PM
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4. An old dude with really, really good health care coverage!!
Emphasis on the health care coverage since millions of people don't have any.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:10 PM
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5. Bingo! nt
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:15 PM
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26. ...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:17 PM
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30. Prollee 5 policies from London, the insurance dude who donated his house for the Phoenix fund raiser
Edited on Thu May-29-08 09:18 PM by lonestarnot
(Bushitler and McSame's wedding)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:11 PM
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6. *snicker* A professional athlete.
I get your point, and am obviously just being silly.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:12 PM
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7. Well, he's old, he's got lots of history,
and he's got things wrong with him.

Don't forget - those 1200 pages are only the past 8 years.

He's old. Health matters get complicated.

Contrast that with Obama's medical records: a letter from his doctor stating that he's in excellent health.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:30 PM
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15. Ha!
One visit compiles a lot more than a letter. You are naive.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:46 PM
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16. Oh, now, let's not start
If you don't understand what a letter from a physician attesting to one's physical condition encompasses, and you obviously don't, I would never call you naive.

Uninformed, yes.

But not naive. That's just the wrong word.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:51 PM
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19. A letter can be part of the medical record.
Edited on Thu May-29-08 04:53 PM by cornermouse
A letter can summarize a visit or a medical record but a medical record is not comprised solely of a letter.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:15 PM
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8. I wondered the same thing!
I've been breeding and showing Golden Retrievers for 28 years, and we currently have eleven dogs, ranging in age from one to 10 years.

I guess our file at the vet's is getting close to an inch thick for all those dogs - but even that many dogs and in all that time we are nowhere near 1200 pages - or even 150.

What's up with that many pages in a personal medical record?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:16 PM
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9. I don't think *I* have that much
and I'm falling apart at the seams. Of course, I don't have any notes from preventive care because I don't get that, being uninsured. But you'd think somebody with a serious and potentially fatal illness plus a corneal transplant might have accumulated at least that much.

It's just more proof that if you suck at the taxpayer tit, you get truly gold plated medical care.

We can't get it, of course, it's socialist and would make us ordinary folks weak.


Uh, :sarcasm:
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:21 PM
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10. misinfo
MSM reports McBush showed his medical records to the media.

However, Keith Olbermann reported that what really happened is that they assembled reporters into a room and let them peruse the paper for a few hours. And that was that. If they didn't catch anything in that short window, they are never going to.

Kind of like taking a college course, which consists of being locked in a room for a few hours with the books, and then being removed from the class and taking the final test for the semester right after you're escorted from the room!

But all of America think McSame was open, transparent and forthright with his medical history!

-90% Jimmy
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RaVeN_MeaD Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:24 PM
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11. One thing's for sure
you have to be filthy rich and/or have access to really good insurance to be able to afford that level of medical care.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:25 PM
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12. Of course, as one of our Lords and Masters, McCain has the best
medical care money can buy.

It would be interesting to know how many pages the average U.S. Senator has in his records.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:28 PM
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13. My aunt...who is a cancer survivor...
her medical records are at least that thick. She's considered cured now and very healthy.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:29 PM
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14. Medical records have to meet all the rules and regulations of
Edited on Thu May-29-08 04:31 PM by cornermouse
the federal government, the state government, and whichever organization they belong to that inspects them on regularly. They also have to meet the requirements and Medicare, Medicaid, and ALL of the various insurance companies in order to be paid. They have to keep complete records so that their attorneys will be happy should the occasion arise. And depending on the system they use, the record can include everything that is being and has ever been done to the patient within the facility.

And that's why McCain has twelve hundred pages in his medical record.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:48 PM
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17. A healthy person with the best health insurance the tax payers
can buy for him. I bet they run every test known to mankind over and over and over again, just to milk the system. Meanwhile, back in the real world, the uninsured die on a daily basis from lack of care.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:48 PM
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18. It's called "hiding in plain sight"
Someone asks you for information. You're forced to give it to them. So, you overload them with more information than they could possibly process in the time alloted. The reporters looking at the records had three hours, couldn't take photos, and couldn't leave the room and come back.

That's the way you hide something, while going through the motions of revealing it.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:52 PM
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20. A rich Senator!!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 04:55 PM
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21. I have that many. Am reasonably healthy, 'tho with a chronic condition, and I'm on Medicare.
I get a lot of tests at times, things come up, get treated and documented, shit happens. They document it all, again.

(aside) I think we can beat McCain on a *lot* of other issues. This one's a loser, imho.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:04 PM
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22. Ever hear of a GOMER?
Those who are in the medical profession know what I'm talking about. :evilgrin:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:10 PM
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23. Really doesn't apply here...
very disgusting term, IMO.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:58 PM
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31. Maybe to some, but the catch is that much of the criteria is self-inflicted
If something awful happens to someone, such as dust in the subclavicular fossa or seriously high BUN levels, that person should receive the best medical care possible. The worst thing that could happen, however, is for a hospital patient to make a bad situation even worse through activities that are easily preventable.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:12 PM
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24. What person still has a PAPER medical record?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:14 PM
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25. Umm...most people do n/t
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:38 PM
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27. Its amazing he is against people like himself having access to health insurance!
He couldn't get coverage...
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 05:39 PM
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28. A 71 year old with access to good healthcare ?
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:15 PM
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29. A hypochondriac (nm)
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