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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 05:59 PM
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McCrazy sure has stepped in it with his "I'm for change" gambit
Can't you just see the DNC ads? "Of course, John McCain is for change. He's changed his policy positions 180 degrees in order to run for president".

Etc, etc, etc.


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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:04 PM
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1. Yeah, spare change from Keating et al.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:36 PM
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3. Mods: you rock. That is all! nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:43 PM
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5. Damn, I missed that whole thing. What happened?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:45 PM
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6. Utterly racist "there's no difference in the parties" tripe--if Clinton was leading,
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 06:51 PM by blondeatlast
it would have been utterly sexist. Likely straight from the Heritage Foundation intern sweatshop.

Gotta give it to a very quick moderator!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:42 PM
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4. Do you really think our Democratic Leaders have the gumption to speak so forcefully?
Edited on Tue Jun-03-08 06:43 PM by tom_paine
To paraphrase a comment I have heard far too often from Democrats in charge of campaigns I worked in these last 3 "elections", We don't want to get the Republicans angry.

I hate to say this, because it is an inconvenient and unpleasant truth, but isn't that the story of the Democratic Party, with rare exceptions, for the last 30 years?

I also say this because in 2000, our Democrats could easily have run ads about Bush's going AWOL, and should have (speaking of character issues). Instead they went for the customary mushy milk standard bullshit and the rest is history.

In 2004, we had a massive array of demonstrable malfeasance to run commercials about. Again more mushy-wushy "nice guy" bullshit. Meanwhile the Bushies ran ad with scary wolves, and pushed the "low blow" envelope in many other ways besides, including the Toady Media Assisted Swifties.

During the run up to the 2004 convention, the Bushies desired that the Democrats not strike out at them, pointing out their many malfeasances and atrocities and lies...all of them demonstrable often by video tape. The Bushies had their Lie Machine begin transmitting, "The Demos will turn people off if they are nasty. The Dems dare not risk everything by saying anything bad about Bush." And so forth. The Toady Media, as it almost always does, morphed into a a 100% echo of the Bushie Lie Machine, and as always, together they made a powerful chorus of false reality. You remember.

Perhaps you also remember that it was reported (maybe untrue, as the Toady Media is not to be trusted, but the 2004 Obama Convention Speech certainly sounded as if the story were true) that Obama went back through his speech and "toned it down".

Once again, the Bushies essentially wrote the Democratic strategy for us, through the Bush Lie Machine and the Toady Media trailing along in their slimy wake. This worked as well as it always does.

So my question is this, do you really think it's going to be much different this time? It has already been established that the Toady Media is unchanged in eight years, and maybe worse. And our Democratic Leaders have shown no inclination of the sort of spine required to take the gloves off and use these criminal bastards' own words against them.

Therefore, I cannot be optimistic until I see it. I also think the Democratic Leadership will be (as usual) AFRAID to "make the Republicans angry," thus ads like that, so truthful, so necessary, and so very much a simple giving back of a fraction of the vile abuse we have been taking, will never see the light of day.

I hope I am wrong. I would love to be an optimist, but I need some evidence before I can embrace that optimism. In 2000 & 2004 there was zero evidence. Maybe this time...



I apologize for reality being what it is and I most sincerely hope my assessment is incorrect.

Problem is, since Bush took over and turned our nation into an Inverted Totalitarianism, my predictions about the future, some coming a full seven years in advance (it is archived repeatedly on DU that since 2001 I have predicted that we would have a $10 trillion dollar deficit by the end of Bushler's two-term tenure, which I also predicted, sadly), I have been right in my predictions roughly 80% of the time, and wrong only 20% of the time. I suspect many DUers can boast similar ratios of predictive success. It has nothing to do with us being any smarter than anyone else, it has to do with the mind-numbing predictability of totalitarian tyrannies, and connecting the dots. Anyone can do it. All they have to do is let go of the assumption that Imperial Amerika is a Free Nation and predict our future based on other tyrannies like us (it helps me to visualize Marcos or Pinochet, to find a mental template for predicting Bushler's actions).

So the odds aren't good that I am mistaken here, but 20% is still a heckuva lot of hope.

Here's to hope! :toast: And to seeing the Democrats FINALLY break out of our bedamned shell of cowardice and seeing commercials as hard-hitting and "shining light on cockroaches" like yours.

If the Democrats don't run massive ad campaigns based around photos of Bush and McCain hugging, or Bush and McCain eating birthday cake while Katrina victims drowned (split screen with time-dates running across the bottom to show that they were simultaneous would be fantastic) or something equally hard-hitting, then we will know that things have not changed.

one more time: here's to hope! :toast:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:48 PM
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7. I think our new Democratic leadership does.
I agree 100% with your assessment, but we're now entering the Obama/Dean era of the DNC. Things are gonna change.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 07:08 PM
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9. From your lips to God's ears. Because if they don't, it is very unlikely
that America will be free again in our lifetimes, and maybe never.

I have never wanted so much for someone to be right. If the Democrats run some hard-hitting ads, I will watch more commercial breaks than actual TV, just to see it over and over and over.

Catharsis.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-03-08 06:49 PM
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8. He is changing his flip flops everyday...idiot...,
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