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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:11 AM
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When the Media talks about "regular people". . they are hurting the Repugs now.
I reference the Crooks & Liars article:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/03/memo-to-david-brooks-applebees-doesnt-have-a-salad-bar/
DAVID BROOKS, “NEW YORK TIMES: Obama‘s problem is he doesn‘t seem like a guy who can go into an Applebee's salad bar and people think he fits in naturally there. He has to change to be more like that Applebee's guy and as he‘s done that he‘s become much more transactional. Much more, I‘m going to deliver this and this and this to you on policy.

C&Ler Mitzi left this in the comment section:

I called my Applebee's today to make sure I was correct and they do not have a salad bar. Just goes to show how much these people who make these comments have no idea how “regular people” live their lives.

(none of their restaurants have a salad bar. David, sometimes the jokes write themselves. What an idiot)


I maintain that the purveyors of "conventional wisdom" think the vast numbers of Americans (the regular people who choose their leaders by comfort level) are really really stupid. They think "regular" Americans are stupid, warmongering bigots . .in SPITE of all the polls telling them otherwise.. These assumptions are going to boomerang on the Repugs, big time. (shh don't tell them)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:19 AM
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1. "...he's become much more transactional." WTF?
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 06:20 AM by SpiralHawk
What the hell is this elitist republicon propagandist trying to say?

As a regular guy, I cannot understand what these elite republicon propagandists are babbling about...

Brooks needs to get out of the elite bubble he and the other republicon fat cats are in, and nosh at some salad bars himself.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:20 AM
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7. Well, I can translate that.
I should say up front that Bobo Brooks is a wanker who deserves to be unemployed, stripped naked and dropped in downtown Detroit at 2am on a cold January weekday. but he's using the "transformational vs. transactional politics" meme here, one that's been used to describe Obama positiviely in the past.

Idea being, that Obama represents (a wanker like Bobo would say "claims to represent") a break from notion that political participation is soleley about what's in it for the participant, and making it more about reforming the system--transforming it, if you will.

What Bobo's trying to do, very clumsily, is to speak to this idea. But per usual his execution sucks ass, and of course his gaffe about visiting a salad bar that doesn't exist is what everyone will remember about it.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:00 AM
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8. Thank you. In that case, Brooks' rhetoric is totally elitist...
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 08:02 AM by SpiralHawk
and would make no sense whatever to the mythical Joe Six Pack, or even Sally Salad Bar, if in fact he was anywhere near accurate in his allegation that Applebee's has a salad bar. But he foresakes accuracy for the sake of elitist republicon propaganda.

Talk about projection.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:27 AM
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2. "Applebee's guy" OMG stop killing me with this shit
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

What kind of guy is Brooks? Obvious he has never been in Applebee's :rofl:
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:36 AM
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3. Hmmmm. None of the regular people I know
can afford to go to Applebee's. Including me.
We struggle to afford a burger at McDonald's.
Latte, anyone?

Wat
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:48 AM
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4. I sort of agree about the boomerang
but I think his bus tour through PA with Casey was really what held Clinton down to just less than 10 percent there. Teaming up with a Blue Dog (okay, minus the bowling) was a fairly smart move. The Appalachian region (which honestly is where these regular people live) are experiencing staggeringly tough economic times. They are so used to politicians coming there, using them then stripping them of their resources and leaving their environment/livelihoods in shambles that I can't blame them for their cynicism. Big rallies may work in the more urban/suburban areas, but if he gets Rendell, Casey, Manchin and other regional legislators working with him on the ground and this hard case will turn to Obama. McCain may get 55-65 percent of that area, but in some of those states the urban population centers will override that margin, IMHO.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 08:40 AM
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9. Is Appalachia so densely populated, with so many electoral votes
that it is necessary to pander so relentlessly?
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:36 AM
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10. It's the size and scope of the region
This area starts in Southern New York passes through PA, WV, touches parts of KY, VA, KY, NC, TN, SC ending in the northern parts of GA, AL and MS. As you can see, it's problems and cultural views cover a large number of states, voting constituencies and gubenatorial campaign machines. While low-density, rural populations, given the high likelihood that they could be so overwhelmingly anti-Obama and pro-McCain, a regional congealing could effect a regional bleed over that could collectively take down gains made in the urban centers.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:44 AM
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11. I guess those are the "real" Americans that everyone has to
kiss the asses of.

What an odd historical glitch..
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 06:58 AM
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5. Applebee's = overpriced, oversized, overfried crap
Edited on Wed Jun-04-08 06:59 AM by eShirl
The one time I went (at invitation of a friend), I was almost surprised that they hadn't brought the food to us in a trough.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 07:06 AM
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6. Why this desperate media need for candidates you can have beer or salad with?
Pathetic.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-04-08 10:58 AM
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12. Last time I ate at Applbee's I wasn't "regular" for a week, when I finally took a laxative
McSame, at his age, is the one who has trouble with regularity

He's so full of shit it would take a truckload of Dulcolax to displace it.
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