Here we go...Tornado Watch till 9 pm Stay Safe Kansas

Me,

I am getting my things ready and the basement is ready to go...

food, drink, flashlights clothes ect...

:sarcasm:

engineers, architects and such to start designing homes and buildings more aerodynamically with rounded corners instead of the traditional sharp corner concept. I don't believe any structure will take a direct hit from a tornado, but I believe this will increase the building and human survivability chances in the general area. I recall the photos from the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and about the only structure left standing was dome shaped.

I believe the general climate will only continue to become radicalized in different ways and we need to start adapting to the best of our ability on many fronts.

Due to the statistical noise involved with tracking tornadoes, it is unlikely that anyone will be able to verify a correlation with climate. It would take a large and extended rise in frequency to get a statistically useful signal.

That isn't to say there isn't a correlation, only that it's unlikely to be definitively measurable.

with unseasonably warm weather early in the year, parts of the nation which don't normally get tornadoes will see more of them as there is an increased chance of a clash between warm and cold weather.

Of course this is just my hypothesis but it seems logical to me.

The problem with using tornadoes as a measurement is that their locations are determined by doppler radar, and radar coverage is far from complete. The other main indicator is actual structure damage. There has been a rise in reported damage, but that also correlates with the increase of actual inhabited area over time (rise of the suburbs, exurbs, etc). So teasing all that out, and getting a verifiable "climate" signal, is dicey.

Tracking just severe t-storms might be a better bet. I don't know. Our modern high-resolution data doesn't go back very far. A few decades at most.

Here's something you might like to read:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=948&tstamp=200805

:thumbsup:

One way they may be able to track historic tornadic activity is to examine only long time populated areas for tornado reports. Disregard modern subdivisions or developments in more rural areas.

and she couldn't recall them ever getting tornadoes before and now they're getting several a year.

eom

could you elaborate or do you have a link to this information?

not sure if this link gets into the big wind dimension of the teachings, but if you scroll down to the verbatim transcripts of the elders at the House of Mica (UN Headquarters) it does lay out the general picture the traditional wisdomkeepers of Turtle Island have tried to convey to the people...

http://www.8thfire.net/Day_15.html

this is a fascinating read. Sheer logic or common sense should tell someone that Earth simply can't sustain life which ravages it without any sense of proportion or consideration.

This seems like a coincidence but last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I started visualizing about a translucent pearl colored globe and I felt a sense of peace which helped me to relax.

"While at the Cry of the Earth, Tom met Naoko Haga, a Japanese woman who had been living in the US for several years. Her husband, Hiroshi, had recently died, and she was still in mourning. As she talked with Tom she told him of the vision she and her husband had long shared -- the vision of the Sunbow, or Sundog, as an emerging symbol of racial and religious harmony."

Getting ready for another round today, and now flooding too. Ack.

Wichita and most of the eastern half of Kansas have been elevated to a high risk for severe weather today by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Storm Prediction Center.

Portions of Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska and Missouri are also included in the massive zone, and most of the rest of Kansas is in a slight or moderate risk zone.

Forecasters warn that tornadoes could form later this morning in northwest Kansas, and the tornado threat will spread east as heating of the atmosphere intensifies. The supercell thunderstorms can be expected to yield "strong.... long-track tornadoes," the center's synopsis of conditions state.

The National Weather Service in Wichita predicts thunderstorms will form in central and south-central Kansas by mid- to late afternoon, with the potential for hail as large as baseballs, damaging winds of up to 80 miles an hour, and "a few strong to violent long-lived tornadoes later this evening," according to a statement issued early this morning.

While the tornado threat should diminish late tonight in the Wichita area, lines of strong thunderstorms could still pound the region with hail, strong winds and heavy rain.

Check Kansas.com often for updates.
http://www.kansas.com/news/weather/story/425601.html

Living in Emporia on June 8, 1974....we had an F4 that day. Now I live in Derby and we're under the gun again. Yay!

This day is going to suck.

I hate hate hate these storms. I was PG in the Andover tornado. My best friend lost her house and it was only by the grace of god she didn't lose her life. She was working 3rd shift and was sleeping and didn't hear the sirens. Someone saw her sleeping and pounded on her door to get to safety. She had less than 3 minutes to safety

We weren't even near where the tornado hit. We lived near the middle of town and it hit the west side. But the terror of that night is vivid. It hit at a few minutes after six and the power went out right before the sirens were sounded. It wasn't until afterwards that a neighbor came over to see if we'd heard. Then we were scared. Later that evening around 9, the sirens did go off that time. Luckily, whatever was spotted went away quickly and there was no damage that time. For the longest time after that, anytime the sky got dark and stormy looking, my sisters and I got really scared. Makes me nervous when the meteorologists compare the weather pattern today to that day in June, 1974.

to put them on my family when we had to go to the basement because of the weather. Might save a few knocks on the head by flying debris.

so if we need to, we will cover with that

..otherwise, I hope folks will be OK.

and the ANTI-Choice people and Pervert Phill Kline's office would be nice too

I just stood in awe at my open window watching strike after strike hit my neighborhood. At least half a dozen strikes were within a few hundred feet of my window. The storm preceded the rain so it was perfectly quiet except for the thunder, and man was it intense. I just stood there laughing and cheering Mother Nature. She puts on quite a show!

Most of my family is in Kansas, I know they'll do everything they can to stay safe. My parents are pretty obsessive about storm safety.

Stay safe :grouphug:

thank god

This too will pass.

I am trying to spring clean my home getting rid of useless junk



so..


will check in from time to time.


Stay safe

It looks like you and I have been moved to the high risk category. I can't remember the last time that happened, it has been a while, it is not used often. It is not expected here until around 9PM so unless there are storms ahead of this, and there are likely to be, I will be online to talk in between chores. You are not going to your FIL's? Hang in there. Pack a picnic dinner and just go to the basement and make a night of it. This is supposed to continue all night. Storms are fast but that dry line is not. :(

If anything gets hit I hope it is my old house. We can't sell it. A nice wipe out would benefit us nicely :), just kidding, well kind of kidding. If it hits my new house I will shoot myself because as much fun as it was to get it done I can't stand the thought of driving back and forth to the farm again for the next 2 years.

I will be in and out if you need to talk.

he works 3rd shift at ECF so he is sleeping, but he will wake up if we need him


SO..

I am not alone, but I sure miss hubby.


Will be on and off checking in

I am very happy to know you are not alone. Nothing is worse than an emergency all alone.

but it looks like the storms are closing in

have streaming weather video? This is fabulous, I had never seen it before. They are covering the state so if you don't have that you could watch this. http://www.wibw.com/weather Just click on streaming video at the top. I had never seen this before and it is really good if you are worried and want to have real advanced warning. They are covering a tornado warning way out west, Stafford County I think.

Maybe you should consider yourself in bigger company than I thought. I love the storms and am generally not terribly nervous about them but today has me shook up. It feels really creepy outside, has all day. It looks really creepy outside, has all day. Now I am watching the video and the dryer alarm went off. I almost dropped my laptop jumping up. Good grief. :eyes:

these storms are starting to POP


grrrrrrrrrrr daughter just went to get her check from work.

I suggested she stay home and she said "I'm not a scaredy cat like you mom"

and moving east is the line. Both of my sons are coming in to play a gig tonight here. KIDS! Well, mine are 24 and 22 so hardly kids anymore.

I think I am out of this for several more hours you will get it sooner. More development coming behind this line. It is going to be a very long night.

Stay safe.

we can be buddies tonight! I just found out that my husband is also going to be at the gig my sons are playing in so I am going to be home alone :(. It is not looking good up North of you, it is bad enough that I am not getting any news about your area. Radar looks close.

I feel like Dorothy outside. I can lean as far as I want and the wind holds me up! It is all being sucked into the storms I think. I have to go figure out what I am going to do with the livestock. Now I am nervous. LOL, I can take it when I have company but being alone just creeps me out.

Stay safe!

If I remember correctly where you live there is a tornado headed right to your area and will be there very soon. Please take care.