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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:17 PM
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The Last Roundup Is the government compiling a secret list of citizens to detain under martial law?
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 09:24 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/05/government_surveillance_homeland_security_main_core_01-print.php







In March, a front-page article in the Wall Street Journal shed further light onto the extraordinarily invasive scope of the NSA efforts: According to the Journal, the government can now electronically monitor "huge volumes of records of domestic e-mails and Internet searches, as well as bank transfers, credit card transactions, travel, and telephone records." Authorities employ "sophisticated software programs" to sift through the data, searching for "suspicious patterns." In effect, the program is a mass catalog of the private lives of Americans. And it's notable that the article hints at the possibility of programs like Main Core. "The effort also ties into data from an ad-hoc collection of so-called black programs whose existence is undisclosed," the Journal reported, quoting unnamed officials. "Many of the programs in various agencies began years before the 9/11 attacks but have since been given greater reach."

"We're at the edge of a cliff," says Bruce Fein, a top justice official in the Reagan administration. "To a national emergency planner, everybody looks like a danger to stability"The following information seems to be fair game for collection without a warrant: the e-mail addresses you send to and receive from, and the subject lines of those messages; the phone numbers you dial, the numbers that dial in to your line, and the durations of the calls; the Internet sites you visit and the keywords in your Web searches; the destinations of the airline tickets you buy; the amounts and locations of your ATM withdrawals; and the goods and services you purchase on credit cards. All of this information is archived on government supercomputers and, according to sources, also fed into the Main Core database.

Main Core also allegedly draws on four smaller databases that, in turn, cull from federal, state, and local "intelligence" reports; print and broadcast media; financial records; "commercial databases"; and unidentified "private sector entities." Additional information comes from a database known as the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment, which generates watch lists from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence for use by airlines, law enforcement, and border posts. According to the Washington Post, the Terrorist Identities list has quadrupled in size between 2003 and 2007 to include about 435,000 names. The FBI's Terrorist Screening Center border crossing list, which listed 755,000 persons as of fall 2007, grows by 200,000 names a year. A former NSA officer tells Radar that the Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, using an electronic-funds transfer surveillance program, also contributes data to Main Core, as does a Pentagon program that was created in 2002 to monitor antiwar protesters and environmental activists such as Greenpeace.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:19 PM
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1. I'm sure they have the lists ready to go.. if they need them.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:20 PM
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2. YES THEY DO - IT'S IN THE ARTICLE
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 09:20 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/05/government_surveillance_homeland_security_main_core_01-print.php

UPDATE: Since this article went to press, several documents have emerged to suggest the story has longer legs than we thought. Most troubling among these is an October 2001 Justice Department memo that detailed the extra-constitutional powers the U.S. military might invoke during domestic operations following a terrorist attack. In the memo, John Yoo, then deputy assistant attorney general, "concluded that the Fourth Amendment had no application to domestic military operations." (Yoo, as most readers know, is author of the infamous Torture Memo that, in bizarro fashion, rejiggers the definition of "legal" torture to allow pretty much anything short of murder.) In the October 2001 memo, Yoo refers to a classified DOJ document titled "Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activities Within the United States." According to the Associated Press, "Exactly what domestic military action was covered by the October memo is unclear. But federal documents indicate that the memo relates to the National Security Agency's Terrorist Surveillance Program." Attorney General John Mukasey last month refused to clarify before Congress whether the Yoo memo was still in force.

Meanwhile, congressional sources tell Radar that Congressman Peter DeFazio has apparently abandoned his effort to get to the bottom of the White House COG classified annexes. Penny Dodge, DeFazio's chief of staff, says otherwise. "We will be sending a letter requesting a classified briefing soon," she told Radar this week.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:36 PM
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9. I know one thing I'm not going to walk passively in the gas
chamber WWII taught me a Big Lesson

Resist Resist Resist

They will Fail
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:54 PM
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14. They might not fail
but they will remember me.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:23 PM
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3. Just went to the Radar site and this article is making my hair stand up
I can SOOO see RatBastard doing something like this.

Oh, and if you want real tinfoil hat time, guess what's
going on in suburban VA (and perhaps part of the reason
Olmert is even in the U.S.)? The meeting of the Bilderburg
group ...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:23 PM
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4. Martial Law!
The Continuity of Governance program encompasses national emergency plans that would trigger the takeover of the country by extra-constitutional forces. In short, it's a road map for martial law

:scared:

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:24 PM
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5. 1/2 MILLION NAMES
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 09:26 PM by seemslikeadream
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:25 PM
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17. I can't tear myself away from your photo -
Where did it come from? Are they waiting in a food line? Where? Do you know who took it?

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:34 PM
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18. I found it here
I'm sorry I don't know anything about it, I'll try and find it again

http://pixdaus.com/index.php?pageno=295&sort=ever
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 11:38 PM
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19. Got it
printed in Life magazine.Louisville Feb 1937. It is stated the people were victims of a flood.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:38 AM
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23. Thank you! Outstanding Photo-journalism
Wow! All of those pictures are outstanding. Award winning outstanding! Many of which have a Norman Rockwell-like spell-binding irony.

Thank you for taking the time to find its source. From the mural ad, I thought the time frame would have been post-WW2.

:hi:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:08 PM
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16. telling us to be cautious, this is Congress advice to us.
every man for himself is more like it.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:25 PM
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6. There's a FEMA camp by my kids. Hope I go there
do the fascists let you pick your concentration camp? Is that proper fascist protocol?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:31 PM
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7. kick and rec
Edited on Thu Jun-05-08 09:33 PM by alyce douglas
this is scary stuff, is it a call for resistance to the masses.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:35 PM
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8. k&r. nt
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:38 PM
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10. Mike Malloy is reading from this article now! scared
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :scared:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:39 PM
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11. The John Warner National Defense Authorization Act,
http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/05/government_surveillance_homeland_security_main_core_01-print.php

Congress itself has recently widened the path for both extra-constitutional detentions by the White House and the domestic use of military force during a national emergency. The Military Commissions Act of 2006 effectively suspended habeas corpus and freed up the executive branch to designate any American citizen an "enemy combatant" forfeiting all privileges accorded under the Bill of Rights. The John Warner National Defense Authorization Act, also passed in 2006, included a last-minute rider titled "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," which allowed the deployment of U.S. military units not just to put down domestic insurrections—as permitted under posse comitatus and the Insurrection Act of 1807—but also to deal with a wide range of calamities, including "natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack, or incident."
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:45 PM
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12. Oh, and I suppose President Obama will order it? Why worry about this wacko crap
when you can be out registering voters!

HELLO!!! Maybe so you won't be out registering voters.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 09:50 PM
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13. We can register voters
and keep our heads out of the sand AND keep our fingers crossed at the same time.

Wacko crap? See post 11, nobody's making this up.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-05-08 10:04 PM
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15. They've got 8 months
And Iran might be the key.

Stay bitter and cling to your guns, religion won't help you.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:29 AM
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20. All DU'ers should read this article.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:38 AM
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21. kick this article for all to see and read
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:20 AM
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22. I just read this
:kick:

:scared:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:01 AM
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24. Agreed...
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:03 AM
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25. K&R...this has been posted a few times here. Chance favors the prepared mind
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