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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:40 AM
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The Truth About the War (NYT editorial)
CBS and other corporate TV media are ignoring or downplaying this vitally important story, but at least today's NYT has an editorial about how Commander AWOL, VP Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney and the other republicon chickenhawks deliberately lied America into a needless and disaterous Oil Profits Crusade in Iraq.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/opinion/06fri1.html?th&emc=th

The Truth About the War
Published: June 6, 2008

It took just a few months after the United States’ invasion of Iraq for the world to find out that Saddam Hussein had long abandoned his nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs. He was not training terrorists or colluding with Al Qaeda. The only real threat he posed was to his own countrymen.

It has taken five years to finally come to a reckoning over how much the Bush administration knowingly twisted and hyped intelligence to justify that invasion. On Thursday — after years of Republican stonewalling — a report by the Senate Intelligence Committee gave us as good a set of answers as we’re likely to get.

The report shows clearly that President Bush should have known that important claims he made about Iraq did not conform with intelligence reports. In other cases, he could have learned the truth if he had asked better questions or encouraged more honest answers.

(snip)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:43 AM
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1. You know it's not real unless it's on TV.. over and over and over
until it penetrates the "Hillary..VP?" fog that is obscuring the airwaves right now..
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wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:45 AM
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2. They knew the truth all along...
This was a war of choice. They hyped/twisted intelligence and ignored the questioners, deeming us traitors. I will never forgive them.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 06:50 AM
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3. Exactly. It's not as though this is the first instance the M$M has fulfilled its obligation to power
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:54 AM
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9. I can never forgive them for what they've done either.
They really are beneath contempt, and it's likely going to take a generation till they're gone we have a press that is honorable and trustworthy.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:01 AM
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4. NOW they are printing this story???!!! What a disgusting attempt to appear responsible.
Why wasn't this published before 4000+ American troops lost thier lives and hundreds of thousands more were injured and maimed...? And the lives of all the Iraqis, Afghanistanis, Pakistanis..that were lost or ruined?
What a POS the NYTIMES is. I continue to celebrate my cancelling of my subscription 5 years ago.
They were, and probably will always be, a mouthpiece for BushCO and minions.

This "too little, too late" story does nothing to change my opinion of this once great paper that has become nothing more than just another rag on the newstand.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:39 AM
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6. The story seems to have been prompted by yesterday's action by the Senate Intelligence Committee
The long delay in Phase II completion should not have prevented anyone from condemning the Bush administration for their obvious lies to get us into the war in Iraq. But at long last the rest of Phase II has been completed and that is at least cause for reflection.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 07:32 AM
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5. The Today Show had a short news read on it this AM. In a nutshell, Admin was dishonest about reason
for war. It was read quickly and almost dismissive.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:48 AM
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7. The corporate media, in general, does not seem to want to tell America the truth
Ptooey...
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:43 AM
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8. No, they don't, and they never will.
They knew the truth. They withheld the truth and enabled and supported this administration in committing murder. Tim Russert, Wolf Blitzer, almost every single one of them is just as guilty as Bush, Cheney, Rice, et all. Those bastards have blood on their hands. Lots of it, and they will never, ever, admit that.

Their behavior these past 8 years has been utterly disgusting. Utterly. I really don't have the words to express my contempt for these self-serving cowards. It's going to take a generation before these heinous pigs retire and, hopefully, we get some honorable people to replace them. If there was any justice they'd be in prison for the rest of their lives, but instead they'll continue to be respected and revered until they retire in comfort.

I don't know how some of these people live with themselves. In a way, their actions were even more despicable and evil than the administration. Certainly no less.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:25 AM
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16. I counted about 7 seconds dedicated to it.
Not almost dismissive, just plain ol' dismissive. I guess it was Ann Curry who glossed over it, giving it far less attention than if Britney had gone to rehab again or shaved her head. Ummm, isn't this high treason? In a normal society, wouldn't we be on the white house lawn with pitch forks?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:12 AM
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10. But wait. Judith Miller said...
Oh. That's right.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:29 AM
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11. We have "come to a reckoning"?
That would indeed be news to the American people. Instead, we've come to no reckoning at all. The major media have been cornered like rats and beat about the head and shoulders with McClellan's book and now the Phase II report (long delayed by Republicans such as Pat Roberts). They've been forced to grudgingly acknowledge that the Bush administration lied us into an elective invasion, but they haven't yet gotten to the point of calling it an illegal war of aggression. And as far as a full and frank airing of their own shortcomings is concerned, there hasn't been jack squat.

We have come to no reckoning at all, men and women of the New York Times. But for you to put forth the fiction that somehow we have come to a reckoning is a feeble attempt at self-absolution, which is correctly rejected by the right-thinking people of this country who are about six years ahead of you on all of this. Unfortunately, those voices have been effectively ignored and squelched by the same big media controllers who now claim some kind of reckoning has been achieved.

But now that we've all reckoned, I guess it's okay for the Times to hire back the Queen of All Fucking Iraq, Judith Miller, right?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:10 AM
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15. looks like checkmate to me.
Will Congress do their job?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:40 AM
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12. Page A7 of my local rag
in a side article down the spine of the paper. I almost missed it.

I went looking for the link .......

I just spent 10 minutes looking through this entire website and couldn't find it
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/fronts/US?SITE=VARIT&SECTION=HOME
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:03 AM
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13. There was so much money to be had
by all who boarded this money train. You were either with them or against them. There were great rewards for loyalty to this endeavor, and no doubt possible threats for not getting on board. Media put a plastic face on this war, put a spit shine on it and hawked it like heroin. And now they have to come down to the reality of what happened and its gonna hurt.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:05 AM
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14. A license to steal
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