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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:50 AM
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giddy democrats - bleh
democrats are for...

...adding 20-40,000 troops to iraq

...the draft (bill introduced by rangel)

...israel (one MILLION cluster bombs left behind in lebanon...)

...permanent bases in iraq - 14 of 'em (funding unopposed in congress)

...lotsa other fucked up shit

http://flag.blackened.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=74436
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:52 AM
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1. and republicans are for?
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:58 AM
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3. Lesser evil is still evil.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:10 AM
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5. not ALL dems are for these things - and it is changing
things move like an iceberg in America, but we could us another body to help us push. Want to help?
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:26 AM
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7. I would rather help if it included holding the democratic party to account
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 11:37 AM by zonmoy
for their parts in advancing the evil. I lean more toward the greens and the anarchists these days. but I do think that in order to turn the democratic party into a real progressive party one will need to hold those that keep it a center right party to account and expose their connection to the corporate oligarchs and the caballistic masters. I figure that without doing that any activism on the behalf of the democrats will only benefit the bad parts of the party without any real effect on changing the party to a force for good. I think that the best way to do such a process would be to have a truth and reconciliation hearings where all secrets other than names of agents are exposed. I think that having the democratic party push for complete openness is a large part of beginning to find the answers.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:21 AM
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6. And no decision is often in fact a decision in favor of the greater evil.
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 10:21 AM by Lex
nt

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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:57 AM
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2. The idea behind the draft is:
that the average American would oppose unnecessary wars if they had something at risk in them.
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:01 AM
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4. And the argument against it is:
Rich people will still find a way around it.

And even if someone opposed the war and voted for the politician who said he wasn't going to war, he will still be drafted.

A draft for all registered Republicans (or registered voters of the political party who made the decision to start which ever war is going on at a given time) would be fine with me.
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