Bob Barr is as much of a threat to Obama as he is to McCain.

Barr is against the Iraq war, in particular, and against pre-emptive war in general. He is also a staunch defender of the constitutional civil liberties -- and often criticizes the Bush administration for its subversion of these liberties. He's a true, old-fashioned, libertarian conservative, not a neo-con.

Why is no one talking about the fact that he is as much of a threat to us as he is to McCain?

I for one am glad Nader is such a joke.

...are angry Clinton supporters.

And most of them won't vote for Barr, considering that he tried his darnedest to impeach Bill.

Those are the voters Barr might pull away from Obama.

as one of the Clinton Impeachment Posse, I think that group of people aren't going to defect to Barr, not in any significant numbers.

One other thing, since Nader in 2000 (many believe) helped lead to the reign of Bushler and all it's disasters, most people in that group are ACUTELY aware of what a 3rd Party vote means. Don't get me wrong. Like most everyone else, these days, I wish we have a third viable Party one could vote on.

But reality is what reality is, and I think most of the group you specified know the score.

As a result, only the disgruntled Freeper types who touch close to that sphere will be pulled off in significant numbers, so I agree with the general happiness over a Barr candidacy.

That makes him much more of a threat to McCain,imo.

better. :-)

Bring that up and the mood will turn ugly for anybody leaning-Dem but on the fence.

Will America really vote for a guy that thinks you can get AIDS from a bowl of soup?

If so, I'm going to be :rofl:.

He's an old, mustachioed fuddy-duddy. He was a key supporter of the impeachment of Bill Clinton. He was pro-Drug War, pro-marijuana prohibition, and now has suddenly changed his mind just in time to run Libertarian. He authored and sponsored the Defense of Marriage Act. He voted for the War in Iraq. He proposed a ban on the practice of Wicca in the military. He is pro-flat tax.

A liberal would have to be a total idiot to vote for him.

Yeah, that'll go over well with any Libertarian with access to Google.

He always has been and the people of Georgia finally began to see that. He is much more a threat to Repugs who remember how he led the Impeachment Inquiry of Bill Clinton. Dems and Libbies also remember that shit and aren't going to forgive him...or the fact that he married 3 times and forced one of his wives to get an abortion even while opposing reproductive rights for women.

Nader is still more of a threat to the Dems. But not bigger than Paul or Barr.

although I've always known who Barr was, I didn't know much about him -- other than he was one of Clinton's witchhunters. He doesn't say anything on his website about how fundy he is -- which leads me to wonder why the hell he's a libertarian.

But he's really a strict constructionist like Paul. He's very socially conservative, notwithstanding, the hypocrisy. I applaud him for championing the Constitution, but he's a strict constructionist and doesn't view the Constitution has protecting the privacy rights of women.

I grew up in GA and there is ongoing speculation about his ethnicity. For many years, many people believed that he has black blood.

about one-half of himself.

Im not sure which ... Fallacy of composition ?

Just because Barr may agree with a few key elements of current liberal thinking, ON THE WHOLE, he is a RIGHTIST ..... and generally unappealing to Democrats ....

I know better now. :-)

and I keep getting nothing but dumbfounded expressions in return.

The truth is that Barr will draw the Democratic voters who would never vote for either a black man or a white woman but who don't want another 4 years of GOP reaming.

Barr will draw all the protest votes from his own party, and there will be plenty of those. McCain is NOT liked in his own party. Barr has the theocon and paleocon vote pretty much sewn up, leaving McCain the very few neocons there are left.

All the people who think they are casting a protest vote are in danger of giving Barr enough to win. Oh, I think it's a very small danger, but I do expect McCain to come in third.

This election is not going to be a Democratic cakewalk with Barr in the mix.

now maybe that works for the rw lunatics but that is a non starter with me and i do not believe Bob Barr has all of a sudden in the past 5 years changed very much.

Do a little research & you will be convinced of that.

He is no "libertarian," and no one who opposes the war has any reason to vote for him.

At least Ron Paul is consistent.

...the Libertarians' first talking point!

Thank you and enjoy the rest of the show!

away from McCain

He will get lucky if he gets 3%.

He will get libertarian vote, say 0.5%
Then he will get a few repubs who are not very scared by Obama and thus don't mind him becoming president.

The rest of the repubs are so scared of "marxist" Obama, they will vote for McCain.
Obama is talking a pretty good talk, so democrats will prefer him on the issues of war and civil liberties.