No camp 'gains' in Irish EU vote - Democratic Underground

muriel_volestrangler

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Sun Jun-08-08 07:12 AM
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No camp 'gains' in Irish EU vote

Irish and EU officials say they are confident the EU reform treaty will pass an Irish referendum despite a poll suggesting the No vote is surging.

A survey published by the Irish Times on Friday suggested 35% of people would vote No - more than twice the figure polled two weeks ago - against 30% Yes.

It is the first poll to put the Nos in the lead, ahead of Thursday's vote.

Ireland is the only country holding a referendum on the treaty. A No vote would throw the process into chaos.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7440787.stm

Just to kept people up to date. The treaty is regarded by those against it as too similar to the 'constitutional treaty' rejected in 2005 in referendums in France and the Netherlands. Those who support it say the controversial stuff has been taken out, and it's needed to cope with a 27 member EU. If Ireland does reject it, it may force the whole treaty to be renegotiated again.

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Carnea

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Sun Jun-08-08 08:38 AM
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1. Right or wrong Ireland is doing them a favor.

Edited on Sun Jun-08-08 08:48 AM by Carnea

Forcing a constitution without anyone voting on it is simply wrong. Kudos to Ireland for allowing their people a say.

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muriel_volestrangler

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Sun Jun-08-08 09:33 AM
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2. I find it hard to call it a 'constitution'

It's nothing like the ones that countries use. The problem is that it goes into such detail on how to run the EU that so many people can find something to object to in it.

Some things need fixing - like the Qualified Majority Voting method. At the moment, Germany (population 82 million) has 29 votes, Poland (pop 38m) 27 votes. Maybe the solution would be to remove the bits that mean it has to be be subject to a referendum in Ireland, and get the rest passed by parliaments just to get the basic stuff fixed.

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