Marines to begin martial law training in Indianapolis

Under the guise of urban warfare training the 26th Expeditionary Unit an elite group of U.S. Marines will conduct a martial law training exercise at 26 “surrendered” locations in central Indiana from June 4th thru the 17th. While state officials and media are doing their best to assure the public that this military takeover of civilian property is somehow a good thing, ignoring the Posse Comitatus Act which fundamentally prohibits these types of exercises.

These two weeks of training are also a contradiction of military tradition against deployments among the civilian population dating back to the end of the Civil War. Why then are the citizens of Indianapolis and six other Indiana towns being made to take part in two weeks of patrols and ambushes?

Local news station WTHR 6 reports, “That in the interest of national security the sights and sounds of war will be brought to Indianapolis.” Why do residents of Indianapolis need to learn the sights and sounds of war? Could it be a conditioning process? Considering that numerous urban training environments which exist within military bases in the U. S. and around the globe the explanation of “a need to train in realistic urban zones” is doubtful.

More likely the real purpose is to condition the civilian population and military personnel to living under martial law. Too many this hypotheses may sound farfetched, that is until you realize the plans for martial law and the detention of U.S. citizens have already been made. (Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), “Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies,” gives the executive the power to invoke martial law.)


http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2008/06/03/marines-to-begin-martial-law-training-in-indianapolis/

warning, warning

this is disturbing!

...this is nothing new. Never-the-less, it is still dangerous to our representative democracy because it is a slow encroachment of the police state.

There are some people ready to start a revolution

and other fireworks.
Then let them know what to expect if they ever do it for real.

what. the. hell? k&r

just before the election

Give me a freaking break with the martial law crap already.

Giant country + decentralized leadership + military power mostly expressed with boats and planes + corporate interests focused on Americans moving around and spending freely = no martial law.

Geez.

there were people who didn't believe Nazi Germany would dominate almost all of Europe, (under Martial Law)? If there were some who could never dream it possible?

And the inconsistency amazes me. On one hand, we supposedly have a corporate-run media and political
structure, and the only thing that keeps the economy going is people breaking their backs to buy
more and more junk that they don't need.

Yet through all this, somehow, it's suddenly politically and economically advantageous to stop
the flow of our money to corporate coffers by rolling out the tanks and suspending the one set
of rights that our lifeblood depends upon.

And all of this is supposed to take place in about a 5 month window. Gotcha.

"Mr. National Guard Reservist, we need you to leave your family report to Fort Dumbass to help us
suppress the rights of...the family you're leaving."

Um, right. Sure.

When the brownshirts-who-do-not-exist-as-I-write-this break down my door and ensure that I can spend no more
money at Chevron, Shell, Target, Starbucks, Verizon, Napster, Microsoft, Albertsons, Vons, Coca Cola, Ford,
and so on, I will tap out an apology to all on the pipes of my cell. Hopefully you know morse code.

...that being that the drunken/high Chimp wants out, I don't believe Cheney does. He's still trying to complete the neo-con agenda.

Can you tell me why Halliburton built the happy camps? Do you really believe they've been built to hold illegal aliens?

Can you tell me why Bush signed Executive order 12919?

Do you really believe these war profiteering criminals are going to give up power? Uh huh, they're prepared to go to prison for war crimes, treason, etc.

Just wondering. I see more evidence for this scenario to occur than not. Convince me otherwise, please. You may also want to lay off the Kool-Aid.

Gee, maybe Halliburton built the things because they got paid to build them whether anyone gets stuck there
or not? If I could get paid billions to build a weightless, invisible ray gun that causes every American to have at least one bowel
movement within the next month, don't you think I would, given that I can claim perfect success?

I mean, isn't it even *plausible* that Halliburton is just cashing a check? Doesn't most of their entire enterprise go away if we're all
locked up?

And there is QUITE a gulf between giving up power and going to prison for it. No one is ever going to get prosecuted for anything, and
we all know it.

If you truly think the weight of the evidence is in favor of wholesale martial law, suspension of all civil rights, blah blah, then
where exactly are you writing from, and what are your plans? Would you care to put up some dough on the outcome of all this? I'll give you excellent odds on nothing much of anything happening.

Do you really think the neo-cons give a rat's ass about the purchasing power of the U.S. population? Our purchasing power is on a downhill rollercoaster. Better to sell their oil, etc., to a *global* market. They didn't break the back of this country for no reason.

Hey, I hope you're right. I just don't trust these SOB's any more than I would have trusted Hitler - maybe less. I'm not saying boxcars to the happy camps is inevitable; but it *is* within the realm of possibility and we should heed the warning signs.

a fantasy. So would Quakers, Mormons, any pacifist religion, Finish Americans, Unionists especially the Woblies.

All of these groups have been wholesale imprisoned in the last 100 years.


Read a book rather than the web. Learn something about the country before you post on the web.





Also read the article. This exercise doesn't use the Guard.

To which I say horse-poop.

And I suspect that those who insist that it will happen, WANT for it to happen, simply so they can
claim to have lived in interesting times.

Again, in the longer-odds-than-Powerball case that I'm wrong, my apology will come in morse code, since even
those of us who are SURE we're as good as prisoners aren't don't much about it.

When Some of us are under Martial Law all of us are under martial law.


It is disappointing to see you don't care about people who are the "other"



A little tip from a holocaust survivor friend. There are always people who say at least NOT ALL OF US are oppressed. Those people made the best prison guards.

Mentioning their genuine suffering and oppression in the context of something that isn't going to happen is crude.

I'll say it again - if the suspension of civil liberties is imminent and is known to have an expiration date
on its occurrence, then people seem curiously calm about it. If the tanks are about to block the freeways, then
why are 50% of the threads on DU about gas prices and healthcare?

Because gas prices and healthcare are actual problems in the real world, not some bullshit fantasy like martial law in the United States.

strongly suggests that we the people should expect ANYTHING could happen. Who prior to 2000 would have thought the US of A would have a world wide reputation as a country that TORTURES people?

And consider that Cincinatti has had problems between the proles and the police for a few years now.
And, that Blackwater just bought its first armed airplane last week.

Scarey scarrrreyyy shit considering their armed response to Katrina victims' attempts to escape New Orleans.

I wish that people would open themselves up to the possibility that Bush
has simply run the country stupidly, ham-fistedly, abusively, ignorantly,
selfishly, illegally, and in a mean-spirited and anti-intellectual, soul-denying way,
and he can't wait to scoop up his ill-gotten gains and high-tail it out of DC.

I would argue that the evidence is highly consistent with that outcome.

went in the back door with air boats, pulling out survivors and putting them on the beach for rescue. the Coast Guard choppers landed and let off more people.. the rescuers told them to take away the ones there, they had no water/food/medicine, the CG said they didn't have any other place to take them.. and would try to get water.

it was a deliberate lock down

sheriffs caught FEMA people cutting emergency telephone lines, made them repair them at gun point.. then put out an all points notification that anyone caught cutting communication lines or taking generators/supplies would be shot on sight.. fema or otherwise

that was a deliberate disaster, perpetrated by the White House

as stated above, is eye-opening. When will this country wake up? The question most asked.

Not with National Guard but with police. Certain high crime neighborhoods are being cordoned off and proof of residence or business in the area is required to get past the checkpoints. It started this weekend, I think last Friday.

-Hoot

the locals (where the murders were happening) said they didin't want to have to prove at a check point that they lived in the area.

we all know what happens at check points.

brave: wonder what odds Las Vegas would give that martial law won't be imposed before inauguration day? :shrug:

Thank God I don't live in Indianapolis anymore. Then I quickly realized that there is nowhere to hide. :scared:

I wonder if they picked Indianapolis because they think we Hoosiers are a fairly docile crowd. Judging by some of the responses to that article, they may find out different. For one thing, Marion County is a blue dot in the middle of a sea of red -- or at least that's how the election of 2004 broke down. They are not real fond of Bush around those parts, and there could be real trouble. I'm not so sure those comments are just idle threats.

...created in the fall of 2002 to study and make recommendations for the continuity of government institutions after a catastrophic attack. This commission is made up primarily of professional lobbyists. The plans approved from this commission advocates a constitutional amendment calling for the appointment of individuals to the House of Representatives to fill the seats of dead or incapacitated members, a first in American history. I will say that again: our representative government will cease to exist as individuals to the House of Representatives will be appointed and not elected. An examination of the proposal reveals that it is both unnecessary and dangerous."

even DeFazio(Rep) could not get the documents for himself to review.

Article here where Mike was reading from:

http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/05/government_surveillance_homeland_security_main_core_01-print.php

'incapacitated' members is new. Not a shock. The economy collapses, people are distracted with where they'll get food/money/gas, and BOOM, Military Exercises in Indianapolis. Not a shock.

It may be time for the wife and I to leave America for good. It's not enough that we're taken over by facists, but those who would resist want to kill my family in the name of revolution. Fuck this country.

It's all there in the comments...

On edit: Website describes itself as "a constitutionally conservative blog about current events."

Codespeak for far-right.

Offering to send you the "Protocols of Zion" nazi propaganda. :wtf:

n/t

I live in Indianapolis and while I've yet to see any of this "operation" in person, it is all over the local media. The local "journalists" fawn over anything military and this has them wetting themselves.

I live in Terre Haute now, but still this is scary. For the rest of you, here's the Column about it in today's Indianapolis Star: http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080609/OPINION08/806090325/1291/OPINION08&GID=T1OsfJw/p820tdurEJXUiYEmdn4dZ0d1v9i1BBECdD8%3D

now Marines conducting exercises in our cities and towns

what's next? elimination of habeas corpus? . . . . . . . . . . oh.

Didn't he sneak it into an exhaustive bill-after all he is The Unitary Executive Out Of His Mind.

I will never "get used to" seeing fucking military personnel and cops,doing shit like that, I hate authoritarian shit,they are a toxic force, strong arm bullies for the state, agents of empire, cancerous colonizers,trying to intimidate their way into more control and I won't just go along with it.Fuck no.

police statism is the new thing around the western world- its done for "your protection"- these same types of things are happening in places in western europe where in many countries now cops can stop you and detain you for any reason if they suspect you are a terrorist

its very sad what this country has become