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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:22 PM
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"I Don't Care If You Have To Display The Remains On Dry Ice. I Want An Open Coffin"
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 10:24 PM by Wiley50
Listening to Vincent Bugliosi on Malloy tonight
he said something about US servicemen coming home
after the person was killed by an IED
He said the remains come back marked "Unviewable" by the military

And I thought of the 1955 murder of Emmit Till, the year I was born
that was one of the events that brought the whole civil rights struggle to a head.
http://www.watson.org/~lisa/blackhistory/early-civilrights/emmett.html
And how his mother demanded that his body be displayed in an open coffin
because she wanted the world to see what they had done to him

"The Emmett Till case quickly attracted national attention. Mamie Bradley, Emmett's mother, asked that the body be shipped back to Chicago. When it arrived, she inspected it carefully to ensure that it really was her son. Then, she insisted on an open-casket funeral, so that "all the world see what they did to my son." Over four days, thousands of people saw Emmett's body. Many more blacks across the country who might not have otherwise heard of the case were shocked by pictures of the that appeared in Jet magazine. These pictures moved blacks in a way that nothing else had. When the Cleveland Call and Post polled major black radio preachers around the country, it found that five of every six were preaching about Emmett Till, and half of them were demanding that "something be done in Mississippi now." <17>"

Photo of Emmit Till's body in casket (Warning Graphic Remove xxx to view)
XXXXXX

It must have been unbelieveably painful for her

But, it worked and the world began to see the horrors of racism

And I couldn't help but think about what would happen
if a parent had the anger and the will to do that now
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:24 PM
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1. Last I checked....
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 10:25 PM by danagsk8
The WHITE woman he whistled at and got him killed was STILL ALIVE (about three years ago)!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:25 PM
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2. k&r
great post


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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:27 PM
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3. awwww
emmett's mom was not only very brave and strong she was extremely wise.
no mother should have to,.................... i'm too choked
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:29 PM
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4. We must hide the horrors of our society so that those that participate in it
can avoid considering the consequences of their actions.

I doubt that any family would be allowed to do something like this in America today, we still had a marginally independent press then.


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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:03 AM
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23. Exactly. If that happened today the Toady Media would trip all over themselves to self-censor.
That is one of the things that I find genuinely disgusting and disheartening. The fact that at least the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany had to beat people, murder people, or threaten their familes to get the kind of homogeneous state-controlled media that exists in Imperial Amerika.

Our toadies just gave it all up without a fight. Much preferable to be a stenographer, I suppose, than an actual journalists.

Journalists don't get so many lazy aftrenoons off to go to the gym, and the don;t get as rich as Toadies.

If you haven't noticed, in all walks of life, being a Toady is where it's at in today's Empire.

Which is sickening to the few of us who carry freedom in our hearts, but that's the way it is.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:30 PM
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5. Mamie Bradley, we all owe you.
:kick:
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:30 PM
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6. hey did you remove the pic (too graphic)
or did photobucket remove it from your page?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:44 PM
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9. There are pictures at this link. They are the worst thing you've ever seen.
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 10:44 PM by sfexpat2000
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:48 PM
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13. I saw them a few years back on a PBS documentary
Gave me nightmares...
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:33 AM
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22. I shouldn't have looked.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:44 PM
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10. Yeah i forgot to preview it and when it posted, it shocked me
so I edited and added the xxx at both ends
so noone could complain

If you must see it
remove the xxx from both ends
and c&p it into your browser

I'm not here to force anyone to view it
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 11:07 PM
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17. no i did see it i was just curious who removed the pic
i'm just nosy that way.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:31 PM
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7. How many times do humans need to be told this before they learn?
"In Mamie Bradley's words, "Two months ago I had a nice apartment in Chicago. I had a good job. I had a son. When something happened to the Negroes in the South I said, `That's their business, not mine.' Now I know how wrong. I was. The murder of my son has shown me that what happens to any of us, anywhere in the world, had better be the business of us all."
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:39 PM
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8. This kind of shit is why I don't believe in God.
n/t
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:47 PM
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12. Amen. Pardon the pun. nt
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:46 PM
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11. Two Soldiers: How the Dead Come Home
Edited on Thu Jun-12-08 10:47 PM by wtmusic
"When an Army division goes into combat, ninety-two mikes quietly establish collection points in discreet locations. Company commanders typically know where they are; soldiers typically don’t. A collection point is nothing more than a couple of litters on sawhorses, a hand-washing station composed of a steel basin and a jerrican hung in a wooden frame, and a small desk for paperwork. Camouflage netting covers the station, and a one-square-foot sign announces its function: “Mortuary Affairs Collection Point.” A green, generator-powered refrigeration container big enough for twelve bodies stands outside. Six ninety-two mikes generally man a collection point."

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/08/09/040809fa_fact1
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Carnea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:52 PM
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14. RIP Emmit Till
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 10:57 PM
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15. The actual pic is much worse than this artist's representation
It's not something that people really need to see these days on that issue

But, the iraq occupation is another matter
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 11:04 PM
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16. Yeah. That stunningly beautiful young man. What they did to him.
It's not an image you can forget or "unsee."

And I think that mother's resolve to "not let it go" asnd let the wretched truth be known. did absolutely jump start the civil rights movement.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 11:20 PM
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18. The public showing of this simple brutal truth of life in Amerikkka was
so powerful. That power, and the lessons that the Powers That Be then learned, and then again when some photojournalists showed the truth of Vietnam, are exactly why the Corporate Media Operators will never again allow that kind of truth to be told. Where are the victims of their mass slaughters in Iraq or Afghanistan shown? Some obscure websites, but never on the front page of the massacred media.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-12-08 11:28 PM
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19. and that is why the Bush administration wouldn't let any photos be taken of
coffins coming from Iraq for so many years!
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:20 AM
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20. BINGO!!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 01:25 AM
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21. But we have the photos and they should be posted as often as possible
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:45 AM
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24. A quote from Till that sounds all too familiar here.
"Two months ago I had a nice apartment in Chicago. I had a good job. I had a son... When something happened to the Negroes in the South I said, `That's their business, not mine.'"

Sheep have only one future.





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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 04:23 PM
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25. That is art.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 02:29 AM
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26. Kick!
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