Honestly - does anyone know any Christians or Fundies who agree with Phelps?

You know...this guy "Gawd Hates Fags" and all...

until he started picketing soldiers' funerals.

i never knew even one who supported his garbage on ... well anything...

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pretty much anyone who knows anything about him recognizes batshit crazy when they see it.

which is not to say fundies don't have homophobia covered, but phelps makes the lunatic fringe fundies seem like tree huggers.

But, yeah, unless you were Michael Moore, most folks let his disgusting homophobic tactics slide until he went after military families. Then Fox and co. were shocked...SHOCKED!

Maybe 80% of the posters on DU hated Phelps, but the country as a large majority was fine with Phelps until he extended his hatred beyond gays.

his hate-filled ass...and when they did NO ONE supports him or his bullshit agenda...the REASON people began to know about him is the press decided he went after (loudy enough) military funerals...

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as well as Phelps' depicting of Matthew in hell on godhatesfags.com. That shit was long before the military funerals, and the fundies didn't give a damn.

sorry...i knows loads of fundies...deep south fundies...and not one of them has any love for Phelps, his ilk, or what they do...

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'cause they went after the precious "Christian warriors", but before then they had nothing to say about his vile behavior, and some even agreed with it.

say what you will...believe what you want...hate runs both ways...

and crazy gaybashing shit all over it. I don't know if he is Phelps related. He makes me want to act flamingly gay just to piss off the guy.

But I don't know anyone who takes it to Phelps' level of frothing obsession, and I live in South Carolina, aka Fundie Central.

I know some pretty conservative Christians here in Arkansas (they're not hard to find 'round here), and while they may agree with Phelps on general positions, i.e. homosexuality is sinful, America is losing its way morally, etc., they do not agree with Phelps' specific positions, i.e. that God hates homosexuals, or that it is a good thing for servicemembers to die because they were serving an immoral nation, etc.

I had one evangelical tell me that she was ashamed of Phelps and his brand of "Christianity."

and they seem to be embarrassed about Phelps. I love my in laws (brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces) but they are way to the right of Me and the Mrs. They find no value in the families antics.

that opening your thread may cause readers to want to violently regurgitate their 3 most recent meals. :rofl:

but yes, people do agree with him, although they deplore his tactics. They honestly think their god hates homosexuals but that the best way to deal with the "problem" is by repressive religious laws codified into civil law.

After all, as long as gays are forced to pretend they're straight to avoid incarceration, they can go about their business while pretending that homosexuality doesn't exist.

But yes, they agree wholeheartedly with Phelps.

I know people who are embarrassed by Phelps's antics, but when you get down to the nuts and bolts, their feelings about gay people are almost as bad as his. They just express their hatred in more polite ways, like insisting that laws match their opinions.

My own church is very gay friendly. It has an active GLBT group and GLBT people in positions of prominence. We don't have any gay clergy now, but we have had in the past.

My previous church was too small to have discreet groups of any kind, but some of the most prominent members were out GLBT.

The universal opinion in both churches was that Phelps is protesting way too much and is undoubtedly a self-hating closet case or bisexual who is livid that other people aren't as repressed as he is.

Whatever we think, he's not really part of any denomination. He's one of those fundie nut jobs who decided to organize his equally loony relatives into a "church."

Most of the bigots I know are bigoted due to their own inner conflicts or because they can't wrap their minds around same-sex relationships, which is true of a lot of older people I talk to. ("Why do they want to do that?" "How can he be gay? He was dancing with such a cute girl." "But the parts don't fit together." These are actual quotes I've heard from older women who grew up in the era when homosexuality was not mentioned in polite company and certainly not when there were ladies present.)

Of what you'd hear in a lot of churches when it's just members, kind of like people who think it's OK to be racist when you're in a crowd of other white people. As a child early 80s, I can tell you that you'd hear the same things Phelps is saying in the church I attended, about AIDS being a gift from God, natural disasters being punishment for sin, etc. This wasn't in an obviously crazy church with snake handlers and women who weren't allowed to wear pants. It was in a church led by handsome, friendly young pastor that had been in existence for almost 200 years at that point.

Told his daughter that she was looney on one of his TV shows.

I actually think Phelps is one of the few things that the right and left agree on.

despised Phelps and all he and his family stood for. I don't think the rest of the country was that aware of them until they started protesting against the soldiers but people in Missouri and Kansas were very familiar.

one protest and an obscure website then he faded into a distant memory in the press...but blame it on the fundies and claim they had to know...they just HAD to...

hate runs both ways...

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