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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:25 AM Original message |
Anger rises in Iowa |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. New Orleans/Gulf Coast Redux. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. At least people aren't being held prisoner in a stadium |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. and being shot at and threatened for trying to get to safety. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. And having their personal firearms seized for their own "protection" |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. Righteous anger |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. I got yelled at a few days ago for saying you really don't want FEMA to show up. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. W is on CNN now |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. And how is one to know these FEMA people have any real training? |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. The article refers to "city officials" and "National Guard" NOT, NO-NOT, FEMA |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. It's a question, not a statement |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You questioned the professionalism of FEMA employees - most of whom are Dems by the way. |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I didn't trash anybody. Chill out already. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. Anything run by the Bush administration 8 years is bound to be screwed up. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. BushCo/neocon/FEMA deja vu all over again |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. I agree -- make sure people learn to hate their government by under-staffing and |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
6. Is it me.. or is there VERY LITTLE coverage of this on TV ?? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. CNN has been covering this |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Thanks.. watching. MSNBC is a waste of airtime. Oh, levee breaks?? sheesh... |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
65. Yeah, I've been disgusted at MSNBC's near completely ignoring the floods. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 04:50 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. they're too busy orgasming over remembering Timmy n/t |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. you're not being fair to the memory of tim russert |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I stand rightly accused. *hanging head in shame* |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. Very little, CNN aside, you have to go to the local TV station in Cedar Rapids, etc. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Do you have a link to progressive radio in |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. No, I just Googled for the local tv station. |
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IowaGirl (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. Tim Russert's death has received priority coverage over the |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
11. what did Kanye West say? |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
12. Read the "Shock Doctrine" |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. "Only a crisis-- actual or perceived-- produces real change." |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
13. Bush's fantasy is for people to stop expecting government to help in these disasters- |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Burlington Iowa sits and waits |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. The levee already broke at Gulfport.. thousands of acres underwater. I'm not |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Yes, yes they did. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. The reporter at Burlington just TRIED that with a Burlington citizen and got totally |
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pt22 (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Ours costs 20 bucks a month, a 100,000 coverage policy. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Looks like someone has finally allowed people to return |
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emmadoggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. "Because we, like, have to grieve for 'one of our own' on the public airwaves which |
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Theres-a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 06:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
73. Ding!Ding!Ding! We have a winner! |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. The little town of Oakville (pop. 439), just upriver from Burlington, |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #33 |
47. Damn, damn, damn! n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. I never have expected any help from the .gov in a disaster |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. You should--you're paying for it, and they used to. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. The .gov provides military protection, fixes the roads, and keeps the schools running |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You're making the libertarian argument for eradicating government-- |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. No, that's not what I am doing at all |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Then I agree. It's just not a binary argument--some administrations believe the federal government |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
15. Good thing they didn't vote for those latte-sipping paper-reading cheese-munchers |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Did you notice this? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. It's katrina all over again.. our guard is busy elsewhere. |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. It's like they're waiting until it's totally unsalvagable before they do anything usefull |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. Bingo |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
51. A lot of them probably did. I've seen this used against Louisianians, too. |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
55. Cheese-munchers? As in Cheetos eaters? |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
23. "I'm sure this will all work out quite well for them" |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
28. This is what happens when people who don't believe in government are in charge of government. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #28 |
36. they do not only not believe in government they do not believe |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. They won't let people in because it's unsafe.... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. The government does not have the right to keep you out of |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. If they are the ones that have to come in and save your ass.. |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. ...... |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. wow how articulate of you |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 03:19 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Thank You. |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 04:46 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. a beautiful creature. completely overwhelming in numbers... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. I'm sure you were against steel jungle gyms too |
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IowaGirl (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. One of the hazmat people stepped into a "depression" in |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
30. Gee, I thought they were being such model citizens |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
42. How long will it be before the bulldozers roll in to make room for the new |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #42 |
69. They'll let "hard working" types return first maybe like they did with Katrina? |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. Did Iowa go for Bush in 2000 and 2004 ??? |
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tcfrogs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Gore won in '00, Shrub in '04, both were very close n/t |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-17-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Quincy Illinois levee overrun now |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
66. If any thing like this ever happened where I live.. |
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IowaGirl (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. It's frustrating that people weren't allowed to bring pets when |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
67. Sounds like yet again they are following the Bush Doctrine using floods as an urban renewal tool. |
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