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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:39 AM Original message |
17 Teen Girls Agree to Get Pregnant Together |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:41 AM Original message |
Why am I not surprised. |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
40. Dupe |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. wonder if any of the boys r gonna be accountable for this scam nt |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. "We found out one of the fathers is a 24-year-old homeless guy," |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Presumably. |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. I have a problem with the 'statutory rape' angle ... |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. The girls are all under 16. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
58. It all depends on what the law in the particular state is. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
180. They may have taken advantage of him |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #180 |
185. I'll second this. I passed for over 18, easily, when I was 16 (even younger) |
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usaftmo (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
223. I can't stand it that |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
118. Aye, for that they should be put in jail.. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Only if the girls tell their names and they are DNA tested. - Then, |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
82. 18 years. my daughter's father sent the last check the month she turned 18. n/t |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Not if they're in college..... and 21 years old!! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #87 |
135. WTF?!? 23 years old is NOT a child!! |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. The reason it's 23 is until they're 24, parent income is factored into financial aid. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:29 PM Original message |
That sucks! |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. Parents income is factored in only if they claim them |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. No. |
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ldf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #145 |
205. no |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #135 |
160. The cut off is at 23 and the parent has to request to have Child support extended, its NOT automatic |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Oh I know. My bf didn't have to pay it past 18 for his kids. nt |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Hell; my ex only paid for 6 months until he lost the custody battle he waged and then NADA! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. Jesus! What nerve! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #163 |
178. My cousin had a lengthy battle with her ex |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #178 |
181. Some people just truly suck. nt |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #178 |
194. My ex quit his job BUT was working under the table with his band... he was even in the news!! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. My cousin went all the way to the state AG |
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usaftmo (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #163 |
225. What gets me is I still have to pay |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
117. Should they be? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #117 |
128. Clue by four for males:If you have sex with a female, you may impregnate her |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. Thats right |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #132 |
139. Ah jeez, not this shit again. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #139 |
144. I believe in cases like this.. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #144 |
150. How do you know the men were deceived? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #150 |
151. sigh... did you even read what I put down? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #151 |
158. Speaking of not reading. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #158 |
166. Nice deflection.. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. More projection from you. How tiresome. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #168 |
174. I did not say you were a neo con I said you were arguing like one |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #174 |
177. Did I claim that men, as a gender, are irresponsible? No I did not. Yet you accused me of it. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. Your language about men |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #182 |
188. And your MRA talking points are as tired as ever |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. Maybe not.. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. "reserved for one gender.."? WTF? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #193 |
201. Again with distortion |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #201 |
211. No, you said women can have sex with no consequences. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #189 |
210. Only 1 gender? wtf? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #166 |
232. Neocon? I think you have some serious projection going on |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #151 |
172. If you don't know how to use a condom, |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #172 |
175. Isn't it, though? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #175 |
183. Right because when I say things like |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-24-08 07:20 AM Response to Reply #175 |
233. I know one thing he's teaching his "little angels" |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. So if he uses a condom and it fails (as they sometimes do) |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. Well, whether or not she's a victim, it's still her STD now, isn't it? |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #179 |
184. You still refuse to answer.. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. To whom? The STD? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #176 |
214. He should. If he had sex, he needs to be responsible for any potential pregnancy. |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #176 |
228. Your male victimhood defense is so absurd |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #172 |
212. I take it one step further. If you don't want to risk pregnancy, don't have sex. |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #212 |
229. Agreed. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #132 |
213. Bullshit. If you don't want to risk pregnancy, don't put it near a female. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #117 |
217. I don't see how the boys fit in the victim category |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #217 |
231. The deception is coming from a responder here |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. I once knew 12 high school boys who bought a car together, |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. what were they arrested for? |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
53. And this is somehow |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
108. When you do this in conservative tree lined suburbia |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. I hear ya |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
4. "We found out one of the fathers is a 24-year-old homeless guy," |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
50. This is all over |
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mikeytherat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
74. Well, since the pregnancy rates "had rose" over the years (not risen), |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
103. By "homeless guy" they may mean something like "couch-surfing hipster |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #103 |
167. Yeah homeless at 24 is a lot different than homeless at 34 44 or older..nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. You know what, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The TIME article says Teenage pregnancy is on the rise for the first time in 15 years |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You're right about the right wing demonization of birth control |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
122. Umm... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. Had there been some rigor in their sex ed, I doubt they'd have decided |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. And how do know there was not |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #130 |
137. Admittedly only by my own experience in a public school at that age. |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #122 |
173. What did the males want if they weren't using protection? |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. Good point |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #8 |
63. Well if Juno and Knocked Up are the best sex education they're getting |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #63 |
96. No, there is Sex Ed in that HS! Those movies MAY have influenced them though and |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #96 |
198. And it can't be denied that teen pregnancy is way down... |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
76. Not so long ago to be in that position was considered sinful. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Huh?? But us guys were told that gals didn't really like sex. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. We throw like girls, too. |
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psychmommy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
121. it is true, we don't. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #121 |
143. Sorry! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #121 |
190. Well, if you did your work around the house ... |
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psychmommy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #190 |
215. a gal has to do what a gal has to do. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
120. I think it has always happened |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #120 |
142. Part of this is just biology. I was one of those girls that developed "early" |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
7. All of these girls were under 16 |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. The fact that they are so incredibly stupid and irresponsible shows that Abstinence-Only fails! |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
47. And he knew they were under 16 how??????? nt |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
107. C'mon, they were high school girls |
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boobooday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
10. According to officials at the school, seventeen girls made a pact together to get pregnant at the sa |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. I blame Romney!!!! but they don't know this "pact" is a fact but seems like it... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Thanks for the local info! |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #19 |
52. Why? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. He is looking for another wife? |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. If Juno had any influence on them they'd be giving these babies up for adoption |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Well; the idealism of JUNO, is what I'm referring to.... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
207. But she didn't keep the baby |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #207 |
216. Tell the girls in this group that. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Many of the parents of these soon-to-be-mothers will, no doubt, offer their guidance ... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Wow! RW talking point from you?! This is a working class town.... lost many jobs there |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Newsflash: Good parenting was evident even during the Great Depression. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. And Abstinence Only education by Romney (R) didn't have a hand in it? |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Maybe the parents |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. You are making a LOT of assumptions!!! |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. The girls in this story got pregnant on purpose, though. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #66 |
94. Far too few people really understand "unconditional love" though. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #94 |
105. true |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #94 |
147. Forget "unconditional" -- what about "good enough" care? |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #147 |
154. Babies don't "love" anyone anyway... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Babies don't "love", that's true, but they do try to bond with you |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. Sure... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. In hindsight, I should have started having CATS at 19. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #154 |
165. If these teens want unconditional love, their parents should get |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
114. Just wait till your kids are teenagers |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #114 |
149. My mom would argue that being in a car while your 16 year old drives |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
125. unfortunately, the PARENTS |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #41 |
64. It wasn't abstinence only education in Gloucester. n/t |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #64 |
75. maybe not in the high school but not sure about the middle schools... looking |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Yeah because we all now how poverty automatically causes bad parenting.. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Did you reply to the wrong poster? |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
73. Normally, I agree with you on so |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #73 |
91. I've been around enough to know that some kids behave sociopathically DESPITE adequate parenting. |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #91 |
99. While I don't blame the lack of |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
13. this is a self-esteem problem, imo |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
15. Am I the only one... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. I donated to DU, so I don't see those ads. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Unintentional comedy |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
16. Incredible! |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
17. Republican sex Ed at work |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
220. Ha. Exactly. What program are there for them to use? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
22. Where the hell were these girls' PARENTS? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Yes, every teen I've EVER known ALWAYS had SEX in front of their parents!! |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. it's not about the sex, but the thought they WANTED to get pregnant |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Yes, kids had sex in my generation but they were extremely careful to avoid pregnancy |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You're kidding me, right? You didn't miss all the girls "on vacation" out-of-town, back then? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I'm 50 years old and grew up in suburban Southern California |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #51 |
71. "In the 1970s and early 1980s, the U.S. teen pregnancy rates rose." |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #71 |
95. You're talking about trends and averages - The community I grew up in was far from typical |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Yeah, well, just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #97 |
111. Jeebus Crisco on a waterbed, that is NOT THE ISSUE! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. I know what the issue is... you brought up pregnancy in the '70's, not me. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. Yeah, by saying girls in the '70s where I grew up didn't want to get pregnant |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #116 |
126. I was just going to say that you don't know if they wanted to get pregnant... really. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. There were only 500 people in my graduating class and I knew just about everyone |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #71 |
129. class of 73 here |
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tomg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #51 |
90. I see your point, but, and the timing is |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
123. You are correct |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #123 |
133. The kids may think it's socially acceptable for them to keep their babies |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #133 |
152. Marriage doesn't make for success and I'll bet many of those girls will go on to college |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
26. The raising their children together part of the pact stands out to me |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Sounds like a half-baked teenage idea to me |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #29 |
106. That's quite possible |
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belpejic (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #106 |
199. Gloucester is not a nice place |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. Bull Shit!! It's a beautiful place and you know nothing!! Stop spreading lies! |
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belpejic (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. Sorry, but I have spent plenty of time there and on Cape Ann n/t |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #202 |
203. So have I and I don't broad brush condemn a whole town for a few miscreants. |
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belpejic (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #203 |
209. Clarification |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
33. Having someone to love them unconditionally. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:40 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Where did you hear that interview? Link? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. it was a quote from another girl who got pregnant |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. She graduated so, I doubt she knows all these girls.... but |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. i have to wonder |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #36 |
70. There Was a Study a Couple of Years Ago |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
81. Exactly what I said in a different thread. |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
42. Two officials at the high school health center resigned of this. Here's why: |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Yup... the school nurse and doctor resigned! |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Contraceptives ain't going to help, if, as alleged, these |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. You don't think this might not be from a lack of education on the matter? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. The article says that they apparently decided to get |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. If they get to see them when they're cute and bubbly at 3 in the afternoon |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Again, it doesn't help the OTHER kids in the school not going along with the baby pact. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #59 |
78. That school had sex ed.... these girls did what a lot of teens do... because it's so coool! |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. They may have had sex ed, but they didn't have the contraceptives. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. They didn't have it at the school but they could've got BC at any Dr's office or clinic.... |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
56. You know maybe there isn't enough shame.... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Well, that's for sure. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
72. It's my responsibility as an adult |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Look I'm not talking about some girl you meet at the mall giggling wearing a High School Sweatshirt. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #83 |
92. Nor am I referring to any particular social demographic either |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #72 |
85. Thank you! I notice there is very little said on this thread about the responsibility |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
112. Right, what they really need is lower self-esteem. |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. I'm not sure low self esteem is the problem here. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. I agree. We've got way too much self-estimate little shits. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #119 |
146. I also doubt that having a child care in the school is such a good idea. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #146 |
187. I myself am against air bags and seat belts. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #119 |
153. In school daycare isn't there to make them "feel" special... it's to keep the Moms in school!! |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. I agree that is it's purpose but perhaps the way it was implemented |
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Summer93 (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
69. T.V. harmful to the well-being of everyone these days |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #69 |
100. Is this program still based upon the concept of the more children you have the more money you get? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
164. I kind of agree with your take on it. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
77. Any bets on how many baby-daddies stay in the picture? n/t |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #77 |
104. whatever it is, i'll take the 'under' |
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DeposeTheBoyKing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
80. It's a coven! Burn them as witches! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. LOL! That's a few miles away in Salem! |
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DeposeTheBoyKing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. I know - but I gotta work with what I have. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #80 |
93. lol |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
88. I have a bunch of mixed up thoughts. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
98. stupid, stupid twits n/t |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
101. School Officials Quit Over Birth Control Dispute |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #101 |
115. They had Sex Ed... just not BC at the school. |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
102. I saw that story while flipping past Faux News |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
109. it's some kind of epidemic |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
134. I've actually heard of young women in their twenties |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #134 |
141. The connection between marriage and babies is a very young idea |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #134 |
169. Why would they? |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #169 |
192. But these are women raised in two parent middle class homes |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. The community is rapidly declining. I'd say they are lucky if they're still middle class. nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
136. Sounds like the school needs some of those computerized baby dolls for a class. |
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jenanne285 (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-25-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #136 |
234. Yes! Get the RealCare Babies in that community |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-25-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #234 |
235. That is them. Welcome to DU. This "pact" has been shown to be false. |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
138. Yeah okay. I'd watch that show. |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
170. kids whose bodies matured before their common sense (n/t) |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
171. If you raise yourself, and live financially depressed , expecting nothing |
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Raven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #171 |
191. You have nailed this. No love, no hope, no future. n/t |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #191 |
197. I see these young people all over the place..and the sad thing is that they |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #197 |
206. Is it any wonder the RW opposes abortion and contraception? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
204. I wonder about the girls' ethnicity, and, if they're white, whether they bought the |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #204 |
224. Too much time on political message boards for you... (nt) |
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jeffrey_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #204 |
227. Exactly...."now imagine they were black" |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
208. Deciding to raise them together, a great big support group |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:23 AM Response to Reply #208 |
222. They are totally going to start infighting. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-20-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
218. One guy got them all pregnant |
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bumblebee1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
219. I remember something my older sister told me when I was in high school. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
221. LOL! Idiots. |
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ldr65 (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
226. Sounds like the making of a future Maury episode. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
230. WTF!? nt |
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