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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:13 PM
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Poll question: What would be the best way to get revenge for the FISA vote?
Today the House passed a resolution to give retroactive immunity to GOP corporate donors.

Many of us believe members of the House need to make amends to us for their vote favoring the Bush administration's position that is contrary to the Constitution.

What would be the best way to get revenge for the FISA vote?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:15 PM
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1. Tea bags
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:17 PM
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3. Should we mail them teabags, or...? n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:22 PM
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5. I suggested sending them tea bags (in factory sealed boxes) a couple of years ago.
Only a few people here seemed interested.




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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:25 PM
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18. I like the teabags in combination with a money action.
With hold it in every way possible, and cost them in a large way in some manner! Cost them big time!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:29 PM
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21. Hell, I think everyone who voted for the FISA bill today should have their paycheck docked.
Then, FIRED at the next election.

We the People are the boss, no?





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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:31 PM
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22. Yes, but the there is Iran. We need to cost them now and hard, but how?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:39 PM
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25. Hmm...
We have few options at this late date.

I would suggest unseating Nancy Pelosi next November, but that will be too late to save the 4th Amendment.

I'm not buying the argument, 'let's wait until after Obama is elected' either.

Maybe we can hold a farewell party for the 4th Amendment on the 4th of July, a HUGH1 goodbye party? :party:



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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:49 PM
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29. OMG! Good! Fourth of July!
Tee hee, my old anniversary date! BEFORE I WAS DIVORCED! Perfect day! And that is the best damn thing I've seen you do and that is saying alot! Because I have seen most of them! How do I make signs out of it?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:53 PM
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31. I will get on it right away... Any suggestions will be helpful.
I think a few different pix are in order, from a simple flyer, to a bumper sticker, to something more elaborate and snarky.



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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:57 PM
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32. The one above is better. McSame is down the drain already.
Let Barack take care of him! I want my fucking Constitution back!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:15 PM
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33. Oh, that was just a gratuitous post of a pic.
... the one of Cindy as a Terminator, but serves the purposing of demonstrating how weird I can make it. :D

I gotta go check out CSPAN now because I missed Wexeler earlier.


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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 08:56 AM
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36. I have heard people use the phrase "post Constitution"...
...perhaps we can "celebrate" our "independence" from that pesky sheet of paper?

Maybe a memorial or funeral for each Amendment? Article?

Dinner plates in remembrance?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 03:09 PM
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39. Someone is already on it!
4th Amendment: Rest in Peace
Cindy Sheehan

4th Amendment
b. December 15, 1791
d. June 20, 2008

The 4th Amendment to the US constitution is just one more thing that has been murdered since bloody Emperor George took office in 2001: Over 4000 US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan; over one million Iraqis and Afghanis and many of our brothers and sisters in this country who have been either killed or devastated by catastrophic climate change and other violence that has become rampant.

Among the things that have been murdered in George's quest to be the emperor of a vast US corporate-military empire are many aspects of our constitution.

The First Amendment has been obliterated with "free speech" zones; the arrests of thousands of activists trying to express their freedom of speech; the destruction of the "freedom of the press" clause began during the Reagan years and it's untimely demise was hastened during the Clinton regime; the US technically has no state religion, but Christianity has been informally shoved down our throats with the Emperor getting revelations from his demented God that tells him to go on crusades against Muslim countries.

"Torture memos" written by law professors; torture camps; and extreme rendition slaughtered the 8th Amendment that prohibits "cruel and unusual" punishment. The Military Commission and Patriot Acts dealt the deathblows to the 8th Amendment.

When Congress gave Emperor George the power to invade sovereign countries without a declaration of war from Congress---the Emperor's loyal and obedient servants destroyed two clauses of the Constitution: the Supremacy Clause (Art. VI, Clause 2) which states the treaties are the "Supreme" law of the land and the enumerated power of Congress to "declare war" (Art. I, Section 8).

Art. II, Section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to remove a criminal administration, but the Queen of the Imperial rubber stamp arm of the empire, Nancy Pelosi, took that clause "Off the table." When I hear that phrase, I envision a long table with lords and ladies pigging out on a banquet while the peasants starve because justice is not on that table and economic equality is out of the question.

Now, with the new law granting immunity to telecom companies and granting the federal government wide discretionary powers in spying on our communications (which has become far simpler in this electronic day and age), the Imperial rubber stamp arm of the federal government has brutally murdered another of our precious rights: the 4th Amendment which states: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

The centuries old right of habeas corpus which protected us from arbitrary state action through unlawful detention was also destroyed, so the US has returned to pre-Magna Carta "jurisprudence" and not one of us is safe from the arbitrary crimes of the police-empire that has replaced our representative republic.

Even thought the 4th Amendment was 217 years old, it died a violent and untimely death.

I am calling for a memorial service for the 4th Amendment on Tuesday, June 24th. We in San Francisco will be gathering at City Hall at 3pm and having a solemn funeral procession to the Federal building at 3:30 pm. We will then eulogize the 4th Amendment and give it a proper send off. It served us well. Many of our brothers and sisters have never felt its presence, though, even though they have been working for civil rights for generations.

Wear black. We are a nation in mourning for our rule of law.

If you can't join us in San Francisco, please organize a memorial service of your own.

For more info: call 415-621-5027 or email:
contact@cindyforcongress.org

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THX1138 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:28 PM
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19. This is to imply
That they are teabagging us? Or the US Constitution, aka America? It seems unlikely anyway, without a pair of cajones it becomes moot. It would be like firing an empty gun if you get my meaning. A bun without a hot dog.

How about a little tube of vaseline? For their visits to the WH?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:32 PM
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We are losing options.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:16 PM
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2. General strike, general boycott.
The only things that could possibly strike fear into the hearts of the 2-party duopoly.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:36 PM
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35. I think that would be good too, stop the money from flowing.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:17 PM
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4. Primary some of them in 2010.
Nancy Pelosi, for example, should face a strong Democratic challenger in 2010.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:44 PM
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8. Dont make me laugh. Who could possibly effectively challenge her.
She wields insane amounts of power. Power that she is NOT going to give up REGARDLESS of how low she has to go.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:56 PM
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9. I'm not suggesting a specific person yet, but....
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 06:57 PM by Eric J in MN
...if someone in California State Assembly or State Senate ran against her in the primary, and had a more liberal record, then donations would pour to the challenger from across America.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 08:21 PM
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11. That's a lot of "ifs"...
...but I suspect Pelosi has really hurt her standing with her constituents.

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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:30 PM
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6. Other: GUILLOTINE n/t
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 06:42 PM
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7. Other: Best way to actually fix the problem is for America to wake up.
8 years of bush not enough to wake them up? Years of Pelosi politics that boil down to kissing Bush ass every day? 4 years of Obama bullshit?


How about 4 years of McCain?

Will 4 years of war and draft wake them up?

Will 4 years of their sons and daughters being waterboarded? After being tasered and arrested by police "Claiming" They were playing rock music too loud?

Will 4 years of economic ruin wake them up?


If it wakes them up to the point where they kick these assholes out then I say I can live under a McCain administration.

With Obama we are going to die as a nation by a thousand cuts.

With McCain its a gaping bleeding hole but atleast we can see the hole and patch it. We can get rid of the political assholes like Pelosi.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 07:15 PM
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10. They are playing us like a fiddle... It's the Overton window of political acceptability.
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 07:17 PM by Leopolds Ghost


Push the Repubs so far to the right that the Dems sieze power simply
by embracing the Reagan coalition, going on about how Reagan was a
much better President than Bush, and adopting a Northern Big Business
Republican platform circa 100 years ago. Repubs become a rump
opposition minority party composed of religious fundies designed
to prevent Dems (or the Overton window) from moving back to the left.

Note: This strategy was crafted by a right-wing think tank guru named
Overton in the 1970s... the image above was posted by a right-wing
blogger who used to work at one of these think tanks, crowing about
how Dems were dancing like puppets to their intended strategy.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:32 PM
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23. they playing us for fools.
and if their approval rating in the Congress is 12% they are really deluded and detached from us.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 08:25 PM
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12. I voted to send them something in the mail.
A copy of "1984" ought to get the point across.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 08:27 PM
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13. Self-Sufficiency.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 08:32 PM
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14. The PUBs are winning....we are so FUCKED....Reality loses to Fantasy....Reason loses to GREED
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:10 PM
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15. Other: Ants in pants. n/t
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THX1138 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:20 PM
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16. I'm down
for a "Send a ______ to your Congressperson" campaign. I know it sounds lame, it's gimmicky, it's old, but it gets media attention if it starts catching on, and it communicates a very simple and direct message that they can't ignore. It has to be something commonly available, that anyone can mail in. But is should also be appropriately humiliating, and offer a fond reminder of their cowardice. I was thinking knee pads, but maybe that's a little too graphic.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:21 PM
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17. Vote the DINO's out in the primary.
Vote the admitted Republicans out in November.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:29 PM
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20. send them videos of V.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:32 PM
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24. with a tea bag attached! And cost them. Cost them how? Come on alyce
help me think how!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:41 PM
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26. A tea bag and a pre-lubed condom?
:)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:46 PM
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28. No! They would like that!
:P
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:43 PM
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27. a bloody revolution.
nt.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:51 PM
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30. Short of that, but very short of that what?
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:18 PM
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34. I say we go Anon on them
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 10:19 PM by libnnc

;-)

Spy the fuck back.

Since they've "Fair Gamed" us

We should turn the tables on them.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 09:02 AM
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37. LOL!
We could learn a lot from our internet anarchist brethren!


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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 09:09 AM
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38. All of the above.
I am lucky that my CongressPerson gets it.



He is a good argument against term limits.

Doggedly serving Americans for 12 terms.
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