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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 03:57 PM
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Okay, who SHOULD be Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader?
By now, many Democrats are fed up with Capitulatin' Nancy Pelosi and Cooperatin' Harry Reid.

So who do DUers think OUGHT to be Speaker and Majority Leader? Who has the guts and gumption we want?

(It might also help to consider who has a legitimate chance to replace either one. If I had my druthers, I'd name Dennis Kucinich Speaker and Tom Harkin Leader, but the chances of either of those actually happening are zero.

So -- within the realm of possibility -- I suggest Barney Frank and Hillary.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 03:59 PM
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1. Lynne Woolsey and Barbara Boxer
in a best case scenario
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:00 PM
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2. Senate Majority Leader Dick Durbin. Speaker Jan Schakowsky.
Just let Illinois liberals run things for a while. Everything will be OK in a few years.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:00 PM
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3. I always had favored Murtha for speaker
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 04:02 PM by OmahaBlueDog
Senate Majority Leader:

1. Dodd
2. Biden
3. Hillary
4. Kerry
5. Feingold
56th. Harry Reid
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:11 PM
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16. A bit conservative. He's anti choice, and gets an A from the NRA.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:02 PM
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4. Kucinich and Feingold n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:07 PM
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8. YES!
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:09 PM
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14. That was my thought too!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:11 PM
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15. I believe they would represent the people's interest the best. n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:17 PM
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21. I agree - but the others wouldn't support them.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:22 PM
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25. Do you mean after they were the leaders or during the run up to getting there? n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:23 PM
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26. During the run up - don't they vote on it?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:25 PM
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28. Yes. that's what I'm speaking of.
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 04:26 PM by Uncle Joe
But, I believe they negotiate among them selves before they ever vote.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:29 PM
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31. I just don't think there are enough others who truly want to represent us...
They're in it too deep with lobbyists. We need to send a fresh crop of progressives to Congress!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:38 PM
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32. Sadly, I agree with you on all counts.
I just wanted to engage in conversation with you, while kicking the thread.

I do believe times are changing and the lobbyists are losing some power, whether it happens fast enough is the trillion dollar question.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:43 PM
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34. Well, the good news is...
Howard Dean and others have worked hard to draft great progressive candidates in all 50 states ~ we have a real chance to sweep a lot of these folks into office on Obama's coattails! :)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:47 PM
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35. That is good news.
I also believe the Internet will play an increasingly influential part in shaping political dynamics. Peace to you.:)
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:49 PM
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36. To you too!
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:12 PM
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18. THIS IS MY PICK
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:46 PM
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40. YES. n/t
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:18 PM
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46. Another voice of agreement. n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:23 PM
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49. BINGO!!!
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:34 PM
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63. My two choices as well.
:thumbsup:
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 05:29 PM
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71. YES!
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 05:40 PM
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72. I'll vote for that!!
:patriot: :applause:
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:04 PM
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5. Wexler (House) and Feingold (Senate)
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 04:05 PM by RiverStone
Probably not enough seniority for either, but I sure like how they walk the talk!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:07 PM
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9. YES!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:21 PM
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23. Oooo.... the Mustache of Justice...
I forgot about him. Excellent!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:52 PM
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37. That's Waxman
Wexler is the pro-impeachment Florida Dem who told Stephen Colbert that "cocaine is a fun thing to do."
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:52 PM
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42. I forgot about that... now THAT was funny!!!
:rofl:

wouldn't that be incredible to wake up and find WEXLER in charge???

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:50 PM
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41. ~~~swoon~~~ I'll just dream on that one for a bit....
Maybe when I wake up, it could be true?

I like the way you think!

SPINE.



Wadda concept...
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:01 PM
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44. Yup. n/t
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:05 PM
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6. Almost anyone but Nancy Capitulosi
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 04:05 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
Linda Sanchez may not have that much seniority or prominence, but she seems to come down on the right side of most issues. I like her more and more.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:08 PM
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11. YES!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:06 PM
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7. Dodd for Senate Majority Leader!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:08 PM
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13. No, he likes banks too much.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:18 PM
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22. Isn't that what they say about Biden?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:01 PM
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57. I don't know, but I do know Dodd backed the reporting of electronic
banking transactions of any kind being reported to feds just last week.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:08 PM
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10. Henry Waxman and John Kerry
Though I doubt Kerry would agree with it. Waxman, on the other hand, has been really brave for most of this administration, taking no guff from the other side. However, he is kept busy by other commitments to committees.

If I thought he would live a few more decades, I'd choose Robert Byrd. :)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:08 PM
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12. Sheila Jackson Lee, Dick Durbin
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:12 PM
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17. No doubt that Spineless Reid and Jellyfish Pelosi have got to go.
Speaker of the House - Dennis Kucinich or Robert Wexler.

Senate Majority Leader - Chris Dodd, Russ Feingold, or Barbara Boxer.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:15 PM
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19. The Faz & Kerry. n/t
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:16 PM
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20. Bonnie and Clyde
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:21 PM
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24. Kucinich and Bernie Sanders!
Of course snowballs' chance in hell and all
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:27 PM
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30. Bernie Sanders can't because he's an independent. I don't think so anyway. n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:39 PM
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33. Well its all one big fantasy situation that would probably destroy the country if tried
But hey, why the fuck not?
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 07:08 PM
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51. Kucinich and Sanders are by FAR the best choices - which means they have no chance (nt)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 07:21 PM
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52. I think it would be disaster actually
Just like a completely right wing admin (see Bush*) would be.

You need moderation - not full force overturn.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 07:33 PM
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53. Isn't "moderation" what we have with Pelosi?
How well is that working? Kucinich would be an exceptional choice for Speaker of the House. His stands on Impeachment, the Iraq war, voting against the FISA legislation, and many many other issues where he has always been where WE the people are, more than demonstrate his impeccable qualifications for such a position. Would articles of Impeachment have been sent to die in committee were Kucinich the Speaker?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 07:38 PM
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55. No that's called 'Capitulation'
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 07:38 PM by Taverner
Moderation is taking Bushco to trial, and working out a deal. They pay dearly and he leaves.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:25 PM
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27. Barbara Boxer and Lynne Woolsey - Pelosi failed incompetency
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:26 PM
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29. Good choices but I would rather
have Barbara Boxer in the Senate.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:03 PM
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38. I'm no expert-
But I'm pretty sure it should be me.

Do I have to run for office or something?
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:16 PM
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39. Wexler for Speaker!

anybody but Reid for Senate.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:18 PM
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47. He would be a good choice too. n/t
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:56 PM
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43. Barney's fine but not Hillary.
>>>So -- within the realm of possibility -- I suggest Barney Frank and Hillary.>>>>

Divisive and over-accommodating at once. Quite a feat. Only she could manage that. Plus everything she does will be seen thru her angling for another presidential bid.

So a definite no to that. Leahy, Feingold, Feinstein... a few others: plenty of better choices.
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:15 PM
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45. Chris Dodd and Feingold.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:21 PM
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48. They're both Senators. (nt)
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:24 PM
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50. No one likes Conyers for speaker?
I was thinking Teddy in the Senate, but then there are the health concerns.

Barney Frank isn't a bad suggestion.

-Hoot
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:30 PM
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61. Not after all his Nancy Pelosi-ing. n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 02:35 PM
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66. I've been hoping that he would slip the leash...
She must have something really good over him.

-Hoot
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 02:50 PM
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68. Maybe it's the Bushies and Total Information Awareness that have something on him.
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 02:50 PM by tom_paine
At this point, it doesn't even matter WHY. For all we know all this talk of blackmail and anthrax fears may just be our own denial talking, giving these people an excuse for doing what they do so that we do not have to contemplate the abyss if that is the case.

I don't know and I honestly don't care anymore. No more WHYS, there is only WHAT IS.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 05:04 PM
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69. I have to cede that point, Tom
The what is for me is that's a craven stance considering what's at stake.

-Hoot
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 07:38 PM
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54. Kucinich and Feingold
although even Russ is way too conservative.
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usaftmo Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 07:41 PM
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56. Rumsfeld and Coulter n/t
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:11 PM
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58. Bring Back Dick Gehphardt??
How do you think he would have handled this situation?

All the hoopla here about Pelosi, but not a word about Hoyer? He's the one most responsible for this sell-out and for caving to the Blue Dogs. Just like the Majority Leader (Reid) sets the agenda in the Senate, so does the Majority Leader in the House...it wasn't Hastert who did the most damage, it was DeLay.

I've long said I'd love to see my senior Senator, Dick Dubin as the next Senate Majority leader...and really have no choice in the House (other than Pelosi needs a solid challenge next year)...but I would like to see a Progressive replace Hoyer...like a Lynn Woolsey or Jan Schakowski.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:11 PM
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59. Atticus Finch and Spiderman
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:32 PM
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62. LOL. Well, if we're going there: The Ghosts of Kurt Vonnegut and the original Tom Paine!
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 12:32 PM by tom_paine
:woohoo:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 05:07 PM
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70. Incredible Hulk for Whip
That will keep them in line.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:29 PM
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60. Of all of them? Wexler and Feingold.
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 12:29 PM by tom_paine
My "practical, realistic" choices:

Murtha and Clinton.
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 12:57 PM
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64. Wexler and Feingold for me too.
:thumbsup:
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Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 02:06 PM
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65. My picks.
Bernie Sanders or dick Durbin for Senate majority leader.



Kucinich for speaker



House leader Barney Frank
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 02:36 PM
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67. Someone who has the guts to stop George and Richard?
I mean, series. How hard can it be? See criminal activity, do. Do means stop. Easy.
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