"Like firebombing to death everyone in Chicago" (Juan Cole)

Sunday, June 22, 2008
The Real State of Iraq

the survivors are not going to be pro-American any time soon.

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By now, summer of 2008, excess deaths from violence in Iraq since March of 2003 must be at least a million. This conclusion can be reached more than one way. There is not much controversy about it in the scientific community. Some 310,000 of those were probably killed by US troops or by the US Air Force, with the bulk dying in bombing raids by US fighter jets and helicopter gunships on densely populated city and town quarters.

In absolute numbers, that would be like bombing to death everyone in Pittsburgh, Pa. Or Cincinnati, Oh.

Only, the US is 11 times more populous than Iraq, so 310,000 Iraqi corpses would equal 3.4 million dead Americans. So proportionally it would be like firebombing to death everyone in Chicago.

The one million number includes not just war-related deaths but all killings beyond what you would have expected from the 2000-2002 baseline. That is, if tribal feuds got out of hand and killed a lot of people because the Baath police were demobilized or disarmed and so no longer intervened, those deaths go into the mix. All the Sunnis killed in the north of Hilla Province (the 'triangle of death') when Shiite clans displaced from the area by Saddam came back up to reclaim their farms would be included. The kidnap victims killed when the ransom did not arrive in time would be included. And, of course, the sectarian, ethnic and militia violence, even if Iraqi on Iraqi, would count. And it hasn't been just hot spots like Baghdad, Basra, Mosul and Kirkuk. The rate of excess violent death has been pretty standard across Arab Iraq.

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more at (the whole thing is worth reading - since it is OUR taxpayer money being used-IN OUR NAME!!!, kpete):
http://www.juancole.com/2008/06/real-state-of-iraq.html

enemy. Someone for your kids, and their kids to hate and vilify. Another reason for us to look for and depend on "strong" and "determined" leadership for generations to come.

War criminals. Murderers, liars and thieves. That's all bUsh and his ilk are.

and fifth rec.

Check back in 20 years. All that depleted uranium will be killing American soldiers for the next 25 years and Iraqis for the next 500 years.

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20070827_depleted_uranium_to_blame_for_iraqs_cancer_problem/

How many Nam vets died from cancer brought on by Agent Orange and never got their name on the wall?

Nasty Stuff. It'll cause Cancer even in short term exposure. Our troops are already being made sick by it.

he was a great guy.

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war fucking sucks for everyone except the profiteers. When in the hell will america wake up?

and that just about sums it up, don't it? . . . BushCo couldn't care less about the nation of Iraq or its people . . . all they want is a regional military headquarters and the oil -- everything else is just window dressing . . .