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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:30 AM
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Matt & Erin break down our "magic" oil costs!!
For a $4.10 gallon gas:
Crude: $3.00
Refining .40
Distr. .20
taxes .40
station .10

Like Steven Colbert noted... All that profit is magic!
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:34 AM
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1. Yes, where indeed does all that profit fit in to the picture?
Why, you'd think the oil companies were just breaking even on a gallon of gas with those numbers!

Yet magically, they somehow squeeze several billion dollars a quarter out of that calculation.

It is magic!
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:37 AM
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2. that $3/gal figure is not the actual wellhead price that Exxon is paying.
Their obscene profits come from the difference between their REAL costs and what they charge us.
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:44 AM
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5. let's look at the income statement of Exxon
Top line revenue: $404,552,000,000 (all monies collected)
Cost of Revenue: $(232,852,000,000) (cost of raw materials)
Gross Profit: $171,700,000,000 (profit before expenses)

Expenses:
SG&A: $(87,571,000,000) (selling, general and admin costs: payroll fits in here as do benefits)
Other: $(12,250,000,000) (equipment depreciation = equipment is worth less this year than last year - like your car)
Operating Income: $(71,879,000,000) (profit before interest and taxes)

Interest Expense: $(400,000,000) (they have loans just like us, in their case ~$25 billion)
Income Tax: $(29,864,000,000) (self explanatory = all taxes: federal, state, local; taxes in foreign countries etc)
Minority Interest $1,005,000,000 (other than the text book definition I am not sure what this is)

net profit: $40,610,000,000 (profit after all expenses are factored in)

Net profit margin: 9.96%. IOW: every $1 spent returned $0.10

(the rest of this is eye glazing but kind of important)

Now when you go to the cash flow statement, you'll see a paper increase of available cash bringing the total up to $52,002,000,000 (a lot of the "Operating Activities, Cash Flows Provided By or Used In" category is not "real" cash money but a function of accounting charges and credits - take an accounting course if you want to go deep into those). In "Investing Activities, Cash Flows Provided By or Used In" category: XOM bought $15,387,000,000 in capital equipment (long term equipment: computers, drill rigs, buildings etc) and made $8,808,000,000 from investments and lost another $3,149,000,000

Now if you go to the cash flow statement, you'll see that of that $52,002,000,000: $7,910,000,000 was returned to stock holders in the form of dividends (individual investors, mutual funds (also owned by individuals), pension funds (paying out to individuals)), $31,402,000,000 was used by the company to buy back some of it's stock (a common practice), a few miscellaneous additions, leaving XOM with $5,737,000,000 in cash and cash equivalents (either stacks of $$$ in a vault or other, quickly converted to cash instruments).

In essence, while this company has massive revenues ($404,000,000,000), they also have massive costs: $360,000,000,000 so while, from a raw dollar amount, they make a shit pot of money, as a function of return on investment, there are a lot of companies that do a boat load better:

Adobe Systems Incorporated
Apple Computer, Inc
Coach, Inc.
Colgate-Palmolive Company
Danaher Corporation
Qualcomm
Stryker Corporation

all have higher profit margins than XOM.

Now on final point, according to the California state government's energy site (http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/) here is the breakdown:

Distribution Costs, Marketing Costs and Profits $0.12
Crude Oil Cost $3.22
Refinery Cost and Profits $0.53
State Underground Storage Tank Fee $0.01
State and Local Sales Tax $0.34
State Excise Tax $0.18
Federal Excise Tax $0.18
Retail prices $4.59

other than the oil costs, the folks who make the most money out of a gasoline transaction are the various government entities: $0.71/gal (or 15% of the total).
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:43 AM
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3. Station .10???

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Shell, maybe.

At the stations I ran in the past, in any given month if we we averaged 3 cents over what we were charged by the distributor, we were lucky. At times we sold for fractions of a penny over distributor cost.


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 07:06 AM
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4. there`s stations around here that is pricing gsoline at cash only
they can no longer afford the credit card fee and can not raise the price of the merchandise to cover costs.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 08:05 AM
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6. so if the oil companies are making record profits they are robbing banks
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