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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:20 AM
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Thou shalt not hug [your children]...

http://www.newstatesman.com/society/2008/06/vetting-adults-scheme-children

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The most regrettable outcome of the new child protection policies associated with vetting is the distancing of intergenerational relationships. They foster a climate where adults feel uneasy about acting on their healthy intuition and feel forced to weigh up whether, and how, to interact with a child. Such calculated behaviour alters the quality of that interaction. It no longer represents an act founded on doing what a mentor feels is right - it is an act influenced by calculations about how it will be interpreted by others, and by anxieties that it should not be misinterpreted.

In sport, the difference between a coach automatically reaching out to correct a child's position and a coach asking himself, "Is this all right?" before doing so is that the former is a spontaneous action based on a desire to improve the child's game, and the latter is a timid gesture, reflecting an uncertainty about authority that the child must surely sense. In a community group, the difference between giving a distressed child a hug and asking that child, "Would you like a hug?" is that the former is given as an unprompted expression of human compassion, and the latter is a transaction that requires a child's formal consent.

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Our civilization has reached critical mass. Nothing but decline from here on out.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:27 AM
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1. It's a delicate issue. I was tutoring a roomful of impoverished kids and brought my
mother with me the first day, just to have someone for 'em to hug.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:40 AM
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2. yep. We're codifying our prudishness more every day
One extreme to the other, and frankly, I think the "touchless, every-man-and-half-the-women-are-probably-child-molesters" society will foster as much harm as the old "it-doesn't-happen-and-lets-not-talk-about-it-even-if-it-does" attitude.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:37 PM
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4. Eventually, they will ban hug smilies on discussion boards.
these things: :hug: :grouphug:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:09 PM
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6. sick pervert
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:58 AM
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3. a lot of people in this society
recoil if you even touch them or brush them. This is paranoid IMO. Politicians and celebrities seem to hug all the time, and it's done between friends. I don't think it's necessary to hug at all but I do think it's necessary to touch hands and feel comfortable in proximity to others.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:04 PM
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5. Good excuse for kids to use to stop their grandmothers or aunts from hugging them.
:bounce: :sarcasm:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:11 PM
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7. when I'm out walking my doggie, kids love to come over to meet and pet him.
I daren't tarry too long or engage the kids in conversation, much less touch them, even tho i like children. it's sad.
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:23 PM
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8.  i still hug kids. i still correct them verbally.
i am a small town girl and i still say stuff to other people's children. i was getting my car fixed and saw a teenager walking through the parking lot. i asked him why he wasn't in school. he told me he was suspended-i said you're gonna do better right? he said right. i teach vacation bible school at church. i have nieces and nephews-hug them each time i see them. i spank my kid. i am so not pc. i enjoy children. i love to encourage them. i enjoy seeing their faces light up when they get it (whatever the "it" happens to be). i am not confrontational in a crowd. i come from a family of educators can you tell?
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:30 PM
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9. I don't want strangers touching my kid
People we know, that is different. People we are acquainted with, only maybe. Strangers? Get the eff away from her.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:38 PM
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11. I'm sure your precious snowflake appreciates that attitude.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 02:41 PM
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13. Precious snowflake,
or autistic child? Not that you can tell by looking at her. She just might bite you if you try to circle your arms around her. Then am I the monster for keeping her away from you?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 01:37 PM
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10. There is no way I would ever teach or be in a position of authority over children
Whenever I do have to interact with a child professionally I make sure the parent is always in the room.

I do this out of fear. One accusation (even if later discovered to be unfounded) then my life is over.

I like kids a lot. I wuld love to be a scoutmaster, for example (even though I wasn't a scout - I just think it would be fun to teach kids how to camp, fish, canoe, etc. - outdoor stuff). I would never volunteer.

I don't think any upside to being alone with a child (other than my own).
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sandsavage Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 02:14 PM
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12. Little Tyke lost his Mommy
in Walmart. Heard a wee one just screaming and crying. Walked toward the terrified sound.
Here stood this wee little boy, maybe two or three years old. He was so scared. What shocked
me was a circle of people about ten feet away from him, just looking at him.

Now I'm an old Grand-ma so forget the danger of touching someone else's little one. Took his
tiny little hand and told him we were going to find his Mommy. Walked him to the service desk.
Boy was Mommy and her little boy happy to see one another. Seems he wandered away while Mommy
was looking at pictures she had taken of him there.

A women whispered to me that I had taken an awful chance doing this. This makes me very sad, what
a dangerous world children have to live in.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 02:47 PM
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14. LOL - I'm not an official grandma, but I'm old enough to be one
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 02:47 PM by hedgehog
and I do the same thing! My kid radar is stuck on permanently, so I always notice the casual, "nothing going on here" saunter of a small kid who is lost and is trying to be found before he gets into trouble for wandering off!
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sandsavage Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 06:02 PM
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15. Thanks hedgehog!
Glad I'm not the only one. Several times I too see the little guy that has the big eyes and serious
look of, whoops I need to find Mommy now. Funny it is always a little boy.LOL Always watch to see if
they meet up with Mommy or Daddy too. Has to be grandma thing. LOL
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