Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Nancy Pelosi is a big factor in the FISA situation

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread		 This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:20 PM
Original message
Nancy Pelosi is a big factor in the FISA situation
She gave Congresspersons less than 24 hours to read the FISA bill.

She told them it was a "compromise" and that she was voting for it.

It isn't surprising that many Democratic Congresspersons decided to go along rather than risk being seen as to the left of the supposedly liberal Nancy Pelosi.

4-out-of-5 Minnesotan Democrats in the US House still voted No, fortunately. All the Democrats should have refused to go along with Nancy Pelosi.

But Nancy Pelosi deserves a lot of the blame.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:35 PM
Response to Original message
1. The room at AT&T through which all the communications traffic flowed
is in Nancy's district in San Francisco. AT&T and VERIZON are huge contributors to Nancy's campaigns.

She is on the cover-up. She is complicit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. She is complicit, but every Senator and Rep is responsible for his/her own vote. They're all pigs
at the trough.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. They all don't take money from the telecoms, though.
Nancy takes a bunch from them. Go to www.fec.gov and do a candidate search.

And, all who voted for this are complicit in the cover-up, I agree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
12. Collaborator
:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #1
17. I did not know this.....Very interesting.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:36 PM
Response to Original message
2. she should be charged with Obstruction of Justice on FISA and impeachment for each charge of the
impeachment of both cheney and Bu$h, there should be an investigation of RICO violations, along with paloci's obstruction of the RICO Violations.. put her in jail if she has done any wrong
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #2
15. She is legally complicit. Legislative immunity doesn't extend to illegal acts.
The question is, would any U.S. Attorney ever convene a Grand Jury to indict Congressional intelligence oversight or ranking Administration officials, no matter what the underlying crimes were? For domestic spying? For torure? For mass homicide?

Until this dilemma is resolved, there is no rule of law in America.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:01 PM
Response to Original message
5. Why are you all so upset? Her position on FISA is no
different than Obama's, and he is the leader of our party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Obama wouldn't have issued a statement on FISA last Friday...
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 09:04 PM by Eric J in MN
...if Nancy Pelosi hadn't brought this bill to a vote.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. I think he voted for FISA because he thought it was
in his best interest to do so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rocky2007 Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #7
18. I don't think that even for a second
Obama does not flip flop on issues --- I'm not sure what's going on but flip-flopping is not in the mix!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. that doesn't make it any less unconstitutional
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #5
19. Two wrongs? Obama is not Speaker, either. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #19
21. This is very concerning to me, because of his background
in constiutional law....What gives.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jeanruss Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:37 PM
Response to Original message
8. Cindy
I have started giving to Cindy Sheehan. I think it's the best way to dump Nancy and send a message to Congress.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:54 PM
Response to Original message
10. There's a difference between capitulation and compromise.
Compromise means coming to a consensus on a matter that everyone can agree on. I can't see where giving into BushCo and the Republicans constitutes compromise. It's capitulation. I really am very disappointed in Pelosi and I believe history will not judge her kindly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. A compromise could also have been a bill...
...opposed by a similar number of Republicans and Democrats.

Instead, Nancy Pelosi introduced-and-voted-for a FISA bill which more than half the House Democrats voted against, and only one House Republican voted against.

If had been a real compromise bill, then over 100 Republicans would have voted No just as over 100 Democrats voted No.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:06 PM
Response to Original message
13. it's time for pitchforks and torches
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 11:08 PM
Response to Original message
14. This is why Americans stopped voting. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
16. Nancy Pelosi deserves to lose her seat in Congress imo
:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rocky2007 Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. I agree --
Impeachment should have been on the table -- nothing excuses that responsibility and bush has earned that impeachment honor!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 05:30 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC