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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 01:55 PM
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NOTHING at TPM that Pelosi opposes contempt for Rove
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 01:58 PM by brentspeak
Check it out, no stories on this alleged story:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

Nothing at the Carpetbagger report, either:

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/

How come these reliable sources have nothing on it? (Moral of the story: Don't be had by rumors spread on DU).
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 01:59 PM
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1. that's a rec right there.
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 02:00 PM by Richardo
:patriot:

I did not look at all the posts here at DU, but those I did all sourced this info from one place.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:29 PM
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5. One from me, too
TOP fans know what's what.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:47 PM
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9. We know what it takes...
...to make you move your legs. :hi:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 03:35 PM
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11. You mean boogalate?
:hi:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 03:39 PM
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12. OK
:D Mondegreen.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 04:39 PM
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16. Jose, can you see?
We have to stop meeting like this. :)
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:34 PM
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6. Wouldn't surprise me if the rumor were true, but no point in buying into it...
until confirmed by multiple sources...not multiple posts. ;)
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:47 PM
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8. Exactly
;)
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:05 PM
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2. Each time I see a davidswanson anti-Democratic attack post on DU, my alert button goes 'ping'.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:24 PM
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3. David isn't anti-Democratic
Not in the least. He has done more to promote the values of the Democratic party than almost any other Democrat I can think of who isn't in office.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 04:03 PM
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15. We can agree to disagree (fundamentally) about that. Supporting Independent party candidates...
...for Democratic-held offices should be (and rightly is) prohibited on DU.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 05:33 PM
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17. David isn't a candidate
And I am not supporting any non Democrats here on DU.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 06:41 PM
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18. I was not referring to your conduct, but to Swanson's.
Sorry if my words caused any misunderstanding... it's not your critique, support or lack of support I was talking about, rather it was Swanson's.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:39 PM
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7. David Swanson is a progressive Democrat
Each time I see a pro-DLC post, my ignore button goes 'ping'.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 04:00 PM
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14. Someone who pushes Independents (Sheehan) over Democrats isn't a Democrat..
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 04:04 PM by FreepFryer
And interesting how you're labeld 'pro-DLC' when you object to people sniping our OWN Democratic reps without evidence for their accusations.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:10 PM
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19. My OWN Democratic rep is a god damn blue dog
who supports Bush and his failed policies as well as any Republican.

I'll take a progressive over him.

As far as pushing non Democratic candidates, that is what the alert button is for. Use it.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:28 PM
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21. Would you take a 'progressive' Independent? I think not. #1 GOP hit against us is unity.
And knowing better than to attack at our own Democratic Speaker in favor of an Independent candidate is what I expect of a true progressive Democrat at this point in time.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:34 PM
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22. If s/he didn't vote like a republican, yes
I would take a progressive Independent over a blue dog Democrat who supports the war and Fisa and most of Bush's agenda.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:51 PM
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23. Unity means pressuring those candidates with Democratic party challengers, not outside the party.
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 09:52 PM by FreepFryer
Especially when that Democrat is the Speaker of the House.

I'm wondering - has that promised independent proof of Pelosi's argument arrived?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:05 PM
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26. What does it matter if she's Speaker when she gives Bush everything.
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 10:06 PM by sfexpat2000
Come on.

And good luck waiting for any response from Pelosi. She hasn't had a town hall here in, what, two years now? More? That's unity for you.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:31 AM
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29. Party over country!
How's that workin for ya?
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:01 AM
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30. Independent Party Speaker over Democratic Party Speaker? How's that supposed to work for us?
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 06:08 AM by FreepFryer
As I said - challenge her with a Progressive DEMOCRAT and you have my support.

Undermine a sitting Democratic Speaker of the House by supporting her erstwhile Independent party replacement, and you have my condemnation.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:03 PM
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38. Ralph Nader
how's that working for us?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:02 PM
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24. Then your expectation is unreasonable.
It's Pelosi who isn't acting like a Democrat, not David. Pelosi is the one ignoring her constituents near and far.

I haven't discussed our district with David and I don't intend to. But I will continue to support his and anyone's efforts to hold Pelosi to her oath of office because it's obvious that it's impossible to expect her to behave like a liberal.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:22 AM
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31. Fine, oppose her w/a Democrat - but to support a candidate outside the party against a Democrat...
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 06:28 AM by FreepFryer
is incredibly bad politics.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:28 AM
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32. We did and we will continue to mount challenges until she is gone. n/t
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:42 AM
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33. Fine- but if you call for support for another Independent party challenger, count me out. (n/t)
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 11:42 AM by FreepFryer
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:52 AM
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34. I have yet to call for supporting one. n/t
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:55 AM
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36. Good to hear you didn't call for Sheehan to replace Pelosi.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:27 PM
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4. You aren't going to get as many recs for this but I'll add on to one
we had one person making this claim, and many here blew it totally out of proportion without waiting for some kind of verification.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 03:01 PM
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10. i hope it was just a rumor
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Super Soaker Sniper Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 03:40 PM
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13. Okay Then,
Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 03:41 PM by Super Soaker Sniper
She must be tripping all over herself to bring this through then. Working day and night, pouring every ounce of time and effort into an will not stop until it all comes out! Yeah, right! That screeching harpy is not going to do a damned thing to Rove and is never going to allow Impeachment. I have more faith in seeing blue and pink monkeys fly out of everyone's asses at noon tomorrow than seeing anything done by this stupid waste of space in Congress.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:19 PM
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20. Kick!
Not a fan of Pelosi but sheesh - unverifiable rumors suck. There's plenty of outrage fuel for things that I actually know are true or at least have evidence I can examine.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:04 PM
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25. Nothing on Huff Post either
:-|
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:14 PM
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27. Nancy had her surrogate implicitly denying the story today
on Abrams, saying there was no push against going after Rove from Nancy. It's completely inconsistent with everything Nancy has said and done so far, but she sat there and denied it.

So, now we have the official denial from Wasserman Schultz. Maybe this is just a rumor from people who have nothing better to do than to dream up ways to attack Nancy Pelosi because she doesn't create enough problems all by her self that reasonable people could take issue with -- like letting criminals walk all over us with no consequences. You'll have to decide on your own.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:37 PM
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28. But I read it right on an highly reliabale internets blogs some where.
:*
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:54 AM
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35. THANK YOU!
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 11:56 AM by redqueen
I hope this gets as much play as the rumor story did.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:01 PM
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37. your concern is noted
just kidding! :-)
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:10 PM
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39. you mean this talkingpointsmemo?
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/pelosi-let-rove-slide.php
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:32 PM
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40. Er, that's Talking Points CAFE
"Ms.Joanne" is just a TPM reader who set up her own blog on the TPM Cafe "Reader's Posts" forum. What does that have to do with the articles Josh Marshall and his TPM Media staff post on the main TPM site?

TPM Media

Editor & Publisher
Josh Marshall

Managing Editor
David Kurtz

Deputy Publisher
Andrew Golis

Associate Editors
Ben Craw
Lila Shapiro

Reporter-Bloggers
Eric Kleefeld
Kate Klonick
Josh Marshall
Greg Sargent
Andrew Tilghman

Research Interns
Matt Berman
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Lakshmi Gandhi
David Grossman
Al Shaw
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:43 PM
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41. Your logic is flawed.
You take the position that "no stories" revealing proof that
Pelosi opposes contempt for Rove is the issue.

The issue is that Pelosi has taken no public stand
on ENCOURAGING charges of contempt for Rove by the judiciary.

Talk about a "bait and switch" tactic in the house
of smoke and mirrors.

Let's make the issue about opposing contempt charges
rather than the fact that she has sat on her ass saying nothing
about the pursuit of justice.

THAT is the issue.

BHN
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