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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:41 PM
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As heard on Hartmann: Libby was involved as lawyer for guy pardoned
by Clinton! I didn't know that!

Another little tidbit that fills the picture in further...

Point being: Libby is VERY well versed in presidential pardon matters....
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:43 PM
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1. Marc Rich
Bill's BIG mistake.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:47 PM
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3. Right. I had no idea Libby was involved
irony or karma?

Or... factored into the equation early on?

I don't know anything about the Rich case -- why the hell did Clinton pardon him?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 01:03 PM
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5. Had to be money.
It was just weird.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 08:07 PM
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10. It was another favor to Poppy Bush.
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 08:07 PM by blm
Name ONE instance when Clinton didn't side with Poppy Bush on any of the outstanding matters left to him when he took office in 1993.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:47 PM
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2. Libby was said to have been the last guy Clinton talked to before pardoning Mark Rich
Clinton: "The applications were reviewed and advocated not only by my former White House counsel Jack Quinn but also by three distinguished Republican attorneys: Leonard Garment, a former Nixon White House official; William Bradford Reynolds, a former high-ranking official in the Reagan Justice Department; and Lewis Libby, now Vice President Cheney's chief of staff."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/02/18/clinton.fact.check/index.html

--NEED more proof?--

"In no way, shape or form was Mr. Libby involved in the pardon of Mr. Rich," Fleischer said.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/02/18/clinton.oped.02/index.html

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 02:00 PM
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7. Yet in 1993 Clinton had to have seen Marc Rich's name as part of outstanding BCCI
questions.

Does anyone REALLY believe Rich, and IranContra-BCCI figure, was pardoned for tax evasion? He was a longgtime BFEE operative, and no way could Clinton have been in the dark about that after being 8years in office.

How gullible are we expected to be at this point?

The Clintons' Real Trouble with Truth

By Robert Parry
February 24, 2007



Hollywood mogul David Geffen touched a raw nerve with Hillary Clinton when he told New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd that “everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, it’s troubling.”

The Clintons’ trouble with truth, however, is not just the petty political lying nor is it their quibbling over what “is is” or what “mistake” means. It’s that they have never shown any real reverence for the truth. Too often, they see it as something to be traded away for a transitory tactical advantage.

If a future historian is ever to understand what happened to the United States in this era – how the world’s greatest power so disastrously lost its way – that scholar should look back to the first Clinton-Bush transition in 1992-93, when Bill Clinton could have grasped a unique historical moment but didn’t.

Clinton was the first U.S. President to take office after the end of the Cold War. He could have ordered a long-needed historical review of what nine U.S. presidents had done, often behind opaque cloaks of government secrecy.

This review also could have assessed what damage those decades of secrecy, propaganda and deception had done to the core values of the American Republic. By revealing the truth, both the good and the bad, Clinton could have helped restore vibrancy to the democratic process by giving the voters the means to again be an informed electorate. ......(more)

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/022307.html


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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:53 PM
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4. Another odd factoid - Rich was indicted in 1983 by Rudy Giuliani
"In 1983, Rich and partner Pincus Green were indicted by U.S. Attorney and future mayor of New York City Rudolph Giuliani, on charges of tax evasion and illegal trading with Iran. Both of them fled to Switzerland before a court appearance, and they remained on the FBI's Most Wanted List for many years."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 01:16 PM
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6. The aspen grove is larger than we knew, I guess n/t
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 02:02 PM
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8. You didn't know that? Where have you been? :)
Actually, I don't know what the big deal was in Rich's pardon. At least Clinton didn't pardon a terrorist like Bush 41 did.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 05:43 PM
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9. Rich was an IranContra and BCCI figure - the whole tax evader persona was a smokescreen.
Rich helped the BFEE run arms, drugs and moneylaundering operations that helped to finace global terror networks.

Rich and the other BFEE cronies ARE terrorists and terror enablers and have been for decades. Clinton HAD to know that. He was pardoning Rich FOR Poppy Bush and Scooter Libby was the one who pushed that through.

Let's not all keep pretending that Clinton didn't know who he was pardoning.
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