Ohio Attorney Files Motion to Lift Stay in Ohio Case of King Lincoln Bronzeville v Blackwell

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/electionstrikeforce/2008/07/ohio_attorney_files_motion_to.html

At a press conference this morning in Columbus, Ohio, Cliff Arnebeck, lead attorney for the plaintiffs in the case of King Lincoln Bronzeville v. Blackwell, announced that he is filing a motion to "lift the stay in the case proceed with targeted discovery in order to help protect the integrity of the 2008 election."

Arnebeck will also "be providing copies of document hold notices to the U.S .Chamber Institute for Legal Reform and the U.S. Justice Department for Karl Rove emails from the White House."

This case has the potential to put some of the most powerful people in the country in jail, according to Arnebeck, as he was joined by a well-respected, life-long Republican computer security expert who charged that the red flags seen during Ohio's 2004 Presidential Election would have been cause for "a fraud investigation in a bank, but it doesn't when it comes to our vote."

It's time some of these bastards got shortened.

(Well, hey, an otter can dream, can't he?)...

Nice report ... .i have read it but every freaking time you trot this thing out ....
give it a rest

I know that a lot of people know a lot of stuff here and have been here for a long time and have amazing memory, but many don't fall under that description.

I'm never tired of the repetition of some posters and some facts, because along with it comes------ retention

and any info that does not concur w/ what he thinks happened is "bad" and this
paper on the vote shift is his rosette stone about what happened in ....

Ohio 2004 was a multi-level crime. Yes there was a shift of Kerry votes to bush votes but
there was also machine shortages, caging lists, voters purged from the roles, vote
flipping on the machines, punch cards that would not let votes to be recorded for Kerry,
some sort of manipulation @ the tabulators, rigged recounts, voter suppression, secret
vote counts because of a nonexistent terror threat, more absentee votes that absentee
ballots issued (Trumble County), partisan influence over voting @ the State level (Blackwell)
@ County BOEs, and @ the precinct level too.

Blackwell went out of his way to run the data through TN for a reason .... my guess is that
it allowed Rove to look @ "the numbers" before anybody else and then figure how many votes
would be needed to be flipped to get the election for bush. Blackwell went out of his way to
hide Smartech too .... first running "it" through Richfield, OH (for an Ohio address) than down
to Chattanooga, TN. Smartech is more than a distraction .... I think it along w/ HAVA were
part of Rove's plan on stealing another election.

The parameters of the Ohio 2004 vote send up so many red flags.

From 2001- 2004 Ohio lost more jobs than any other state in the Country .... economic well
being is the #1 factor in voter behavior.

There were more registered dems than reps. in 2004 Ohio not much but slighty more.

New voters who were pro Kerry were registered @ almost 10 to 1 325,000 new Kerry voters
to new bush voters.

1:00 AM CNN exit poll female voters Ohio 52 to 47 Kerry
male voters Ohio 49.5 to 47 Kerry

Why is it strictly either /or?

The vote shift model seems to be very good but that was not the only thing that happened ....
I worked the election in Ohio 2004.

"In 2004, Ohio's failure to replace punch card voting with improved systems is just one of many issues raised with regard to the Ohio 2004 Presidential election. Other Ohio fairness, fraud, and irregularity issues include politicization of process, voter registration fraud, voter purging and suppression including racial discrimination and unfair voting machine distribution, the exit poll inaccuracy, electronic voting security, paperless e-voting, e-vote flipping, the high percentage of and unequal distribution of undervotes, uncounted provisional ballots, vote count secrecy, recount crimes and irregularities, and official loss of and/or destruction of evidence."

Meanwhile, you offer a guess, not data or evidence ("my guess is that
it allowed Rove to look @ 'the numbers' ") about SmarTECH.
SmartTECH was not hidden. It was a state contract for web posting of election results.
Posting election results is not a crime or a fraud, sorry!!

Give real evidence "a rest" at your own peril, I say,
and pay attention to every front of new evidence and every front of possible fraud!!

Cliff is a friend of mine and knows of what he speaks. Cliff has given up lots of
money and personal time in the fight to expose what happened in Ohio 2004.

I worked the 2004 election in Columbus, OH

Smartech is not just about "hosting data"

You are not the end all and be all person for Ohio 2004 ....
even though you act like you are

And when I wrote that it was my guess ... it was my best guess and that
guess was based on years of knowledge.

You don't have the slightest clue of what I saw, heard, and learned about
the Ohio 2004 election. I had access to "top level" stuff and no I don't
wish to share it w/ you.

Well, I have access to "top level" stuff and I do wish to share it with everyone. That's democracy at work.

I could start by sharing my conversations with Cliff, or with my role in the state investigations, or the litigation, ....

But, I'll stick with the facts and evidence, and not focus on myself!!

You write, "You don't have the slightest clue of what I saw, heard, and learned about the Ohio 2004 election."
Perhaps the same can be said about your knowledge of my activities. Hey, I've watched an election get fixed!!

I have given hundreds of hours and "my best" to expose what happened in 2004 and to stop
"it" from happening again. You are tiresome ..... anything that does not fit into your view is
junk and you feel no need to show manners to other's thoughts and ideas.

Some of us have been at it for over 40 years now (not hundreds of hours), and we are counting how little time we have left to accomplish what we hoped would be done 40 years ago, when our candidates were killed for these causes. I think in decades of work, not hours!

"Get a life" makes me laugh. You might want to consider that others have valid experiences too. I've had a life since long, long ago, before my boss, RFK, was assassinated in '68, and I'm going to keep on with it as long as I can.

Quite the opposite, in fact, I think. What is needed is greater awareness of the past problems, how they affected elections and American history, and how they are ignored.

Sorry. I will not be giving it a rest!!

I for one appreciate your efforts when it comes to educating people about election fraud and other issues.
Anyone trying to shut you up gets a big red flag and addition to my 'buddy' list as far as I am conserned.

from the website:
http://www.velvetrevolution.us/electionstrikeforce/2008/07/ohio_attorney_files_motion_to.html

>>> And just think of this: here's a person who is an instrument of a major presidential campaign simultaneously setting up the hosting of the votes in the Ohio election."

Arnebeck added: "We're not saying that he did anything wrong in the sense of his conduct, but we're saying that these conflicting roles raise some issues." <<<

Yes indeed. Sure does. I'd like to hear more about how that all works. For sure.


horseshoecrab

edit to add link!

Pivotal Ohio 2004 Vote-Kerry Was Ahead-Then Server Went Down for 90 Minutes-Result-Bush Had Lead!
Apr-29-07 - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x471730

Here is the discourse from the day this "false flag" was flown the first time here on DU!

http://lonestaricon.com/AbsoluteNM/anmviewer.asp?a=2186

<snip>

There’s Florida in 2000 when his company received the IT contract to all the state agencies including the office of then-Secretary of State Katherine Harris.

There’s Ohio in 2004 when his company, SmartTech, ran election results through his computers before releasing them to Ken Blackwell’s Secretary of State office.

<snip>

"We’ve got this guy (Connell) hooked up with Karl Rove back when Bush was governor of Texas. Then this guy hooked up with Jeb Bush and created the very, very first GOP website," Kimberlin said.

Then, there’s the "scary thing."

Within a month Bush first took office, Connell’s GovTech became the first private corporation to gain access behind the firewall of all Congress’ computer servers.

This means that he and the GOP can basically spy on every single House committee without worry.

"All their emails. All their folders. Anything that has to do with their web technology, he knows what’s going on," Kimberlin said.

So who helped get Connell the contract?

Bob Ney.