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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:12 AM
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Study: Eating too much soy may cause memory loss.
FRIDAY JULY 11, 2008 (foodconsumer.org) -- A new study says that eating too much of some soy products including tofu may raise risk of memory loss, a typical symptom of dementia.

The study of 719 elderly Indonesians living in urban and rural areas of Java showed that high tofu consumption --at least once a day - was linked with worse memory, particularly significantly in those aged over 68.

The study was conducted by researchers at the Loughborough University and results were published in the journal Dementias and Geriatric Cognitive Disorders.

The researchers suspected that phytoestrogen may play a role in the worsening of memory. Early studies showed that estrogen therapy doubled risk of dementia in those over-65s.

However, other factors can't be excluded. In Indonesia, formaldehyde, a highly reactive cancer-causing agent that is sometimes used to preserve foods like tofu, may be partially responsible for the increased risk of memory loss.

The study also found somehow fermented tofu was linked to improved memory.

http://foodconsumer.org/7777/8888/G_eneral_H_ealth_34/071107582008_Eating_too_much_soy_may_cause_memory_loss.shtml


This may be why the vegetarian/carnivore threads always seem so repetitive :evilgrin:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:14 AM
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1. Interesting article. Quite a hodgepodge of concepts; maybe the chap who fermented tofu forgot that
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 11:14 AM by HypnoToad
he was supposed to go to the tobacco lobby and prove how formaldehyde is good for everyone's health.
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exothermic Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:16 AM
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5. I used to eat a lot of tofu...but I can't recall why.
:silly:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:14 AM
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2. Right, fermented tofu had no formaldehyde
This sounds like one of those studies where they came to the wrong conclusion because they were studying the wrong damned thing.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:14 AM
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3. Can't prove that by me....
...what was I saying?
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:16 AM
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4. It is actually the carnivore-half of those threads
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 11:17 AM by Big Blue Marble
that is so repetitive. I would put my money of the cause being the formaldehyde. It
is a very dangerous chemical not intended for consumption.

Meat eating most likely causes far more dementia due to the hardening of the arteries to the brain.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:11 PM
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6. What kind of meat?
Not all meat is the same. Beef, buffalo, beefalo, deer, etc.? Or chicken, goose, duck, ostrich etc.? Or pig/hog, swine? Rabbit, squirrel, dogs, cats, snakes? Insects?
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:46 PM
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10. No not all meat is the same.
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 02:47 PM by Big Blue Marble
Many of the wild sources you list are possible cause of brain-wasting disease.
And there is serious concern that farmed animals are far more often than ackownledged the source
of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease as well.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:22 PM
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7. Two independent variables and no way of separating them= useless study
If you want to see if soy makes any difference in memory you design two diets, one with soy and one without, and measure results before and after a period on each. Going with a surveillance model introduces the possibility of bad recall of one's diet, etc, so assigning a diet for a few weeks is the best way to go, provided you have willing subjects.

Once you have a second and plausibly involved independent variable like the presence or absence of formaldehyde in the diet, your results quickly spiral down to uselessness.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:28 PM
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8. what was that again??
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:14 PM
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9. So, sounds like some vegetarians may be saying "Soyanara" to soy...
:shrug:
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