What happened in Knoxville IS NOT terrorism!
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:17 AM
What happened in Knoxville IS NOT terrorism!
We simply must not characterize what happened in Knoxville as a "terrorist" event!! If we do, pretty soon someone's child steals a candy bar from a convenience store and is suddenly subject to post-9/11 laws and Acts!
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:18 AMOriginal message
1. Of course not! The person who did it wasn't even Muslim!
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:22 AMReply #1
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:19 AMOriginal message
2. It was politically motivated which
might lend itself to being at least politically motivated murder.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:20 AMOriginal message
3. but let some gal follow a guy home because she didn't like his bumper sticker
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:21 AMOriginal message
4. Seriously...I mean, it isn't like his name was Ahmed or Khalid or Fazul or...
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:24 AMReply #4
9. I'm serious. Some here are characterizing this as terror. The FASTEST
way to provoke martial law under PDD-51 is to have every crime declared a terrorist act. This is a cut-and-dried criminal shooting spree no different than Columbine or the LA bank robbery shoot-out.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:40 AMReply #9
17. Not quite. It's a "Hate Crime" and, IMHO, about half way between...
a crime of profit (LA bank robbery shoot-out) and terrorism.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:45 AMReply #17
19. After someone blows himself up on a bus in Israel...
...would you say that isn't terrorism because you don't know if he hoped that would change the political situation?
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:47 AMReply #19
20. If no group claims responsibility and the act was motivated by hate - YES
But then, that's me. I'm sure the media wouldn't be as discriminating.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:53 AMReply #17
21. Perhaps you're right about the "hate crime" part of it but that phrase does include "crime"...n/t
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:22 AMOriginal message
5. Well, it might rightly be a "hate crime"
if indeed his motivation was lashing out at "liberals."
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:22 AMOriginal message
7. Of course it wasn't terrorism
Not one SUV was burned during the commission of this crime. That's how you know when it's terrorism.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:43 AMReply #7
18. Or because the perp wasn't of Middle Eastern descent.
It simply can't be "terrorism" unless that's in place, right?
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:24 AMOriginal message
8. Terrorism is a crime, and politically motivated murder designed
to punish those with opposing views sounds like terrorism to me. This deluded asshole had an agenda.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:28 AM
All acts of terrorism are crimes. But not all crimes are terrorism.
The line is fuzzy, but it seems to be is it indiscriminate, and was it motivated for a cause (not personal).
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:28 AMOriginal message
10. Agreed, this is murder pure and simple.
Pre-meditated murder. Prior to 9/11 this would not even be an issue. Prosecute him and lock him up.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:30 AMOriginal message
11. What is sauce for the goose...
I think part of the point of calling it terrorism, is to show RWers the flip side of bandying that term about whenever it suits them. At least that is why I do it...
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:35 AMOriginal message
12. He was a disciple of the right-wing wacko dittohead movement
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:36 AMOriginal message
Terrorism is rooted in political motivation. This guy was socio-politically motivated.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:39 AMReply #13
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:37 AMOriginal message
14. We are all subject to post-9/11 laws and acts - always!
Don't kid yourself about that.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:38 AMOriginal message
Targeting that group for their political leanings or their religious viewpoints is Terrorism.
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Mon Jul-28-08 10:58 AMReply #15
22. Based on no history and nothing but a suicide note. However,
I am willing to be corrected and schooled on this distinction.
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Mon Jul-28-08 11:48 AMReply #15
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