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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 05:45 PM
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If Giuliani gets the Republican nomination, do you think that Right Wingers
will put up a third party candidate?

Giuliani seems to be pulling away from all the other candidates in the polls. I have no doubt that most Republicans will have no trouble ignoring Rudi's past transgressions. But do you think there would be a chance that the rabid religious right might put up their own man?
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champt10 Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 05:47 PM
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1. I hope
I hope they do.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 05:50 PM
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2. Calling Judge Roy Moore!!!
Your nation needs you!
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 06:50 PM
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12. That's exactly who I was thinking about
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 05:52 PM
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3. Nope
They will just shut up and say nothing.

I think Rudy will get the Nod and the whole repug mantra for the 2008 election will be "9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11"

My question is, did Rudy's actions save one life during 9/11?

According to the BBC a few years ago, his actions may of cost lifes, something to do with the NYPD not allowing the NewYork Fire department on to the collaspe site a few days after 9/11.

But I guess the MSM wont report this, because it would mean they are Journalists, they would rather scream out "Rudy was there when the buildings fell down"
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:06 PM
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18. He made the decision to separate the NYPD and NYFD command posts
on 9/11. Since the police and fire departments were not able to communicate with each other directly because their radios were not compatible (whose decision was that do you think?), separating the command centers proved disastrous. The police helicopters could tell that going up to the roof was not a good idea, but they were not able to communicate that with the fire department doing the evacuation.

Giuliani, along with Bush, let people back downtown soon after the attack while there was still that toxic cloud. How many people have died, or will die, from that?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 05:52 PM
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4. They'll just have to. If Rudy is way too conservative and authoritarian for
us, he's a liberal demon to Jim Dobson-types.

They might get the donations crankin' and run Brownback or someone even worse.

Which would split the vote nicely and our team takes the gold.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 05:56 PM
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6. Brownback, yes...that has a nice sound to it...
I really am warming to that idea!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 06:01 PM
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9. Hey there, CTyankee -- nice to run into you again on DU. Yep. Ol' Sam
Brownback's just waiting to get his moment in the sun. And he might get it if his wealthy backers and several far-right nutbags cough up the checks for a "Christian" candidate.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:15 PM
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16. A great idea, Crusoe! I'm all for it! I think Brownback will have just
the "je ne sais quoi" the American electorate will want from the Republics in 2008!

PLEEZ GOD!!!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:00 PM
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17. LOL! Absolutely. I got a deep belly laugh out of that one.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 05:54 PM
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5. While he leads in polls, the delegates are mostly far right-evangelicals
and fundamentalists. Doubtful he can make through that gauntlet.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 06:02 PM
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10. It will probably be a bloodbath on their side.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 05:57 PM
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7. If Rudy is the Repub nominee, many Southern fundamentalists stay home on election day unless Hillary
is our nominee, in which case they turn out to vote against Hillary.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 08:42 AM
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21. Then there's your Northern fundamentalists. They would stay home too.
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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 06:00 PM
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8. No.
I don't think it's about principles, it's about who gets the most excited from killing.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 06:07 PM
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11. I would think it odd if they went with Rudy
Can you think of anything about this man they would go with?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 06:57 PM
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13. They are followers
Seriously, are these people bright? Do they ever get irony?

They will go along with whoever is presented to them as the man on horseback. A crisis will be manufactured on cue, they will obey the call. Prior history is thoroughly irrelevant. See Bush, G.W. for an example. Rudy will intone whatever the magic words are deemed to be. The followers will be told it's all good. If Hillary is the alternative, then the whole thing's a fix by the same tight class of global owners and bankers, anyway. It will be fixed for Rudy.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 06:59 PM
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14. No. Some might not vote but many of them will--for Rudy. Right now all they want is to win
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 07:00 PM by WI_DEM
and they will take Rudy if it means winning. Look, some on the extreme Right may not vote for him, but on the other hand he may pick up more Independents and even some democrats than he loses of the GOP base, and that is what makes Rudy tough in a general election campaign. Let's hope they defeat him in the primaries.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:04 PM
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15. They will have to
If you lurk at the more conservative sites, like Ann Coulter's, with a lot of the fundies, they hate Giuliani. They think he's one of US...<g> They really cannot stomach him.
This would be great for us. Let them have a third party candidate sucking their votes.
Lee
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:08 PM
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19. Hell no. Three words: Supreme. Court. Nominations.
As long as he promises to nominate Scalias and Alitos, they'd support him even if he was a gay abortionist.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:10 PM
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20. Maybe. But the "not as bad" ploy works on repugs, too.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:02 AM
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22. No. GOPers don't Naderize themselves like we do.
Lots of Repubs thought Bush sucked in 2004, but no one ran against him.

We don't want Giuliani to get the nomination, as MSM will never do anything to tarnish the image of the mythical hero of 9-11.
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 09:37 AM
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23. he wouldn't even be in the mix
if 9/11 hadn't made him an instant figurehead.
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