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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 11:50 AM
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A Tale of Two Terrorists-Jose Padilla, Dr. Bruce Ivins-by Dood Abides
Edited on Sat Aug-02-08 12:04 PM by kpete
A Tale of Two Terrorists
by Dood Abides
Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 06:12:36 AM PDT


Jose Padilla, Dr. Bruce Ivins (inset)

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We have in Mr. Padilla a man merely accused of preliminarily plotting something that by all accounts he never had the capacity to accomplish by any flight of fancy... subsequently wrongfully imprisoned and tortured for over six years.

If the FBI is to be believed, Dr. Ivins not only plotted but actually succeeded in killing five people and terrorizing an entire nation. Granted, it can be argued that they wound up spending about $6 million in recompense to the wrong guy, Dr. Hatfill, whom they chased for four years... but, again, if they are to be believed, they've been hot on the trail of Dr. Ivins for the last 18 months. Accounts from Dr. Ivins neighbors confirm that the "black SUVs" were well-known in the neighborhood for quite some time.

In summary, here's the irony, or massive cognitive dissonance, if you will:

Lightweight, inept plotter is swept up and tortured for six years; highly intelligent, successful mass murderer is closely observed for 18 months and subsequently commits suicide.


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What do you trust, words and explanations, or behavior that you can observe with your own two eyes? If the FBI is to be believed and Dr. Ivins is a serial killer and terrorist, why was he allowed to roam free for 18 months... or seven years for that matter? Shouldn't the truth have been beaten out of him?

more at:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/2/9342/75150/222/561180

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UPDATE

``We assert his innocence in these killings, and would have established that at trial,'' said Paul Kemp, a partner at the Venable law firm in Rockville, Maryland. ``The relentless pressure of accusation and innuendo takes its toll in different ways on different people, as has already been seen in this investigation. In Dr. Ivins's case, it led to his untimely death.''

No Autopsy

Ivins's death is being investigated as an apparent suicide from a drug overdose, said Lieutenant Shawn Martyak of the Frederick Police Department's criminal investigation division. Based on laboratory test results of blood taken from the body, the state medical examiner ``determined that an autopsy wouldn't be necessary'' to determine the cause of death, Martyak said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aGw...
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 12:02 PM
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1. Damn strait!
Not that I approve of torture, but if they're going to do it, the least they could do is be consistent.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 12:03 PM
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2. This is so important. Thank you for posting this.
Wake up people!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 12:04 PM
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3. We know the white guy. The Mexican?? better lock that one up.
Padilla was a victim of a drive by "let's make an example out of someone." The value-add was subliminally scapegoating brown people as ter'rists.

Like Middle easterners. With tortillas.

Didn't the whole border flap go from back burner idiocy to a conflagration in Lou Dobb's magic mind at about that time??
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 12:44 PM
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4. No Autopsy?! Are they trying to start a reason....
Edited on Sat Aug-02-08 12:45 PM by ingin
for us not to trust them? Are they really saying "don't believe us, we don't give a shit"?
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OBrien Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 12:51 PM
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5. no autopsy??
Gee, wouldn't you think they would be a teeny bit interested in is physical make-up??
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 01:54 PM
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6.  Error: You've already recommended that thread.
lol

oops
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