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LeighAnn

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Sun Aug-03-08 02:12 AM
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Dead Scientist's Brother Speaks

Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 02:16 AM by LeighAnn

From WCPO-TV:

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=d3774239-744f-4908-904c-d9cf8b55e154

Ivins brother Tom lives in Middletown, about 10 miles from Lebanon. He hasn't talked to Bruce in 20 years, and said nothing to defend his brother.

"It was his own fault, I thought," said Tom Ivins. "What he did, he screwed himself up. He got involved with the wrong people."

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HCE SuiGeneris

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Sun Aug-03-08 02:30 AM
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1. Let's recap. Hadn't talked to him in 20 years but knows the crowd he is involved with?

Huh...

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file83

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Sun Aug-03-08 05:17 AM
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6. And in other news, Bruce Ivins' long lost twice removed cousin said, "Bruce, bad!"

Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 05:19 AM by file83

Although Ivins and the cousin hadn't ever met, this reporter would like to remind people that they were in the same extended family.

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kevinmc

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Sun Aug-03-08 02:33 AM
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2. "..... He got involved with the wrong people." ..Must mean the GOV. 8-) n/t

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stray cat

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Sun Aug-03-08 09:10 AM
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12. or people with an education, or a bunch of conservatives, or liberals

Wrong people mean different things to different people. Someone else's right people may be dead wrong to me. Think of who Ann Coulter would think is wrong people.

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Kaleko

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Sun Aug-03-08 02:34 AM
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3. This article is so sketchy, it leaves one with more questions than answers.

Edited on Sun Aug-03-08 02:35 AM by Kaleko

Like, who are these "wrong people"?

Why haven't the brothers spoken in 20 years?

Isn't there a family member who would INSIST an autopsy be performed in this case?

And so on...

But good work in finding every scrap of info, so we can get a grip on what's going on. :toast:

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HCE SuiGeneris

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Sun Aug-03-08 02:37 AM
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4. One wonders if Tom's financial picture has had, or will have, any

sudden spikes.

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phoenixriz

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Sun Aug-03-08 02:41 AM
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5. He was jealous of his brother

In another article, sorry I didn't capture it, his brother say's something about, "It doesn't surprise me, he thought he was a god." I think he was jealous having a brilliant scientist for a brother and had hard feelings. Or he was paid off.

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fasttense

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Sun Aug-03-08 05:23 AM
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7. I heard an interview of Tom.

He was making strange noises and the ignorant radio "news" caster handled it very badly. Anyway, Tom ended the interview with an abrupt "I hope he burns in hell."

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asteroid2003QQ47

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Sun Aug-03-08 06:52 AM
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8. All Bruce Ivins needed was a career change.

He could have done some real good as White House Chef!

(That is, IF he was the perp and I have serious doubts.)

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The Backlash Cometh

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Sun Aug-03-08 07:21 AM
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9. So who were the wrong people?

CIA? GOP?

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KharmaTrain

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Sun Aug-03-08 07:32 AM
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10. Anyone Ask About The Handwriting?

Isn't that how the Unibomber's brother figured out it was his brother who was behind that mess...just through the writing style. And IRC, they were estranged as well.

I think the article is sketchy as well...I'll be curious how this story plays out as it definitely has caught the attention of the blogosphere...and right be it so. This story is only a couple days old...let's see what else comes out in the days ahead...as well as what the government and Ivins lawyers release.

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alcibiades_mystery

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Sun Aug-03-08 07:45 AM
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11. What the fuck does that mean?

"He got involved with the wrong people."

???!!!???

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LeighAnn

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Sun Aug-03-08 11:33 AM
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16. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

My guess is he was fed a scenario by the FBI, and this is what he's referring to. Then they're using his words, in reference to whatever story they told him, to make it look like his brother had some "inside knowledge" of the situation.

Also, "he got involved with the wrong people", were this to be true, would mean there was a conspiracy and the case should not be closed.

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Supersedeas

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Sun Aug-03-08 09:12 AM
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13. 20 years without contact -- and yet he's has specific personal knowledge that Ivins was involved

with the 'wrong' people.

Logical follow-up question: what wrong people are your referring to? Instead....media silence.

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UTUSN

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Sun Aug-03-08 10:11 AM
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14. "Tom...says his brother...didn't work alone. ...the FBI will be after them too"

"Tom Ivins says his brother probably didn't work alone.

He's confident that if others were involved, the FBI will be after them too."

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gratuitous

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Sun Aug-03-08 10:18 AM
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15. Tom IS delusional

The FBI seems perfectly satisfied that Bruce Ivins' death has tied this up into a neat little bundle with no loose ends protruding anywhere. At least as of Friday, they were indicating that the investigation will now close.

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