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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 08:05 AM
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if the tax cuts were proven to increase tax revenue, and at the same
time, promote job growth, what the hell happened? We should be bouncing from job to job enjoying a greater surplus than when the Clenis left office.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 08:08 AM
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1. "There's lies, damned lies and statistics"
And a new category brought to you by the GOP-totally imaginary numbers.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 08:54 AM
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2. That my friend is the heart of the conservative mind, in 1929 it was proven that
putting all the wealth into the hands of the top 10% and giving big business free trade without any regulations ruined economies. FDR regulated and taxed the hell out of those same people and america enjoyed luxuries unheard of for the working class because corporate greed controlled meant to make huge amounts of money corporate america had to hire workers to buy their products. Imports were taxed, which meant america's goods were cheaper then imported goods. Republicans or really cons were miffed because their great experiment under Hoover went bust and trickle down economics failed. But being conservatives, ( conservatives took the name hoping to get the dumb and unwashed uneducated to believe they were conservation lists, but all they were was a group of progress haters that wanted to take america back to the days of King George where all the countries ills could be blamed on one person ), they wanted to prove that Hoover was right about trickle down economics. Conservatives then took control of education and the dumbing down of the american people began because history was revised to where young people were taught myth instead of facts about america. Then kids were prevented from thinking and problem solving instead schools started expecting kids to repeat and to repeat without question why that was the answer or couldn't there be other answers that fit as well as the instructors. Thus setting up a country that would follow people like Reagan and the Bush's without questioning their motives and buying into all the elitist crap that corporate america was feeding them. America became consumers and the inventors started disappearing. Remember the top 10% never earned one dime through hard work, they bought and sold other peoples hard work and profited from it, they called it investing, but in reality most of the time it was stealing other peoples ideals and selling them to the highest bidder. When you repeat history your doomed to repeat the same mistakes of the past with the same results.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 01:37 PM
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3. thank you mr. cheerful, I'm beginning to believe
I lived through this entire fiasco. Where do we go from here?
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 03:01 PM
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5. Don't have a clue because remember the brain dead are still out there
waiting to have a golden shower trickle down on their heads. After all you would think that after 28 years they would get a clue that was a Reagan lie, but remember most of the nit wits have spent a life time praying to Santa Jesus so they will wait a life time before figuring out the big lie, to bad it will come to them on their death bed when its to late. For all of the bad things that happened between 1929 and 1941, I have run into a few that said those were the greatest years of their lives. Unlike my family who lost their farms or jobs some got lucky and didn't suffer the hardships like others in their community. To bad those were also the ones who bred the most and passed their stupidity, and there religious beliefs onto said off spring. The sad part was if their children didn't accept those beliefs, the grand kids did. We got into this mess because of those who got government aid in the 60's, 70's and 80's who later got lucky and help decided no one else should get the help they got. We have to start by kicking republicans off the bench, out of the school system and out of local government and take back public education, why should a few Texans decide for the nation what is allowed or what isn't for all of americas schools? Local government and the school boards as well as judges that block free thinking need to be purged from republican conservatives and liberals should take their place. We know to stop crime it takes jobs, education and a helping hand, stop this handout BS put out by the right. At the bottom of everything is republicans have used fear to take rights, Child molesters behind every shrub, car thieves behind every tree, anyone that don't look like you is a terrorist fear fear fear fear fear fear, thats all I been hearing since before I was born, fear nukes fear asians ( but buy the asian product ), fear people darker then you fear people lighter then you. Are we the home of the brave or the home of the chicken hawk, who hide in their basements at the first sight of danger?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 01:50 PM
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4. ah, but you forgot the trifecta
We had an economic downturn and then a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad terrorist attack and if not for the President's brave insistence on a tax cut :patriot: :patriot: all would have been lost. We might as well move to Australia. Even the Great and Powerful Wizard of Greenspan said that if we raised taxes, it would be devastating to an already teetering economy, just like it was in the 1950s and the 1990s. (PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE LONGEST PEACETIME EXPANSION BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!! :nuke:)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 03:03 PM
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6. if the words tax-cut didn't exist the republicons would have nothing to run on
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