Is it just me or isn't about time to knock off the pandering?

He has campaigned for change, fine. To be for change you must be the the opposite of bush/mmcain. If you are going to be about change, you will have to at least ruffle some feathers, which I haven't even seen yet.

Will this campaign begin soon or are we stuck with another Kerry?

It's only "pandering when" it's done to your base, when you move to the "center" it's actually "pragmatism", not "pandering".

His base didn't like those so it's not pandering.

is that he's pandering to the opposition, not to his base. :eyes:

He's long held his view about FISA---- and his drilling comment was nuanced as hell and made since.

It's my standard answer to concern trolls.

between pelosi and reid stabbing the left in the back, I don't want a coaster, i want to see a leader- someone that will step, as he promised to fight back against bush/mccain ways and not trying to be so damned agreeable. Sorry, but I don't want to see Kerry Part II. I don't want to see the left wing of the party ignored.

You don't get to simply anoint him.


Politicians who take unpopular positions don't get elected.

If the voters are stupid enough to believe that offshore drilling will reduce energy costs, then by all means, drill away!

Pandering, as you call it, is an integral part of politics.

your unrealistic expectations, and your failure to understand what the term "pandering" actually means

Senator Obama must understand one thing, McCain is tough. Five years in a prison camp will do that to you. If the Obama folks think they can glide to the presidency without a few battle scars they might as well move over and let the McCain train pass. This is not how you win the election. I have said it before but if the Obama camp is saying a McCain victory is like a third term for Bush then treat McCain as a quasi incumbent. Hit him hard and often. Early in the campaign Obama liked the idea of town hall with McCain, called it a very interesting idea. Now he doesn't have the time! They were going to run a different campaign. So far, it looks like Kerry II the sequel. If McCain wants 10 town halls, insist on 20. Go where he goes and go where he is going. You can say the move on oil drilling is pragmatic but to the avg voter, he has changed his position again. My God, to win he must run like he is 10 points down. For someone to suggest Obama is rolling to victory or that it is the press that is keeping the public in the dark of how great a lead Obama has is fooling himself.

With the exception of Clinton the past Democratic nominee's have a habit of crying they would have won but...... Lets call it what it is about drilling-a flip flop to the avg voter. McCain will have an ad playing this week saying the same thing. Though I am not a big fan but perhaps HRC on the ticket is what is needed. Let her chase and tear at McCain on a daily basis. The fact is this campaign needs something. McCain went negative, but it works. Obama can ask "is this the best they got" but if it knocks you around who cares if it is the only thing they have. It worked.

Senator, the McCain campaign is portraying you as an empty suit, all sizzle no steak. It is up to you to show us he is wrong, not to cry foul. The point is even if the republicans go negative, and blast there way into the white house, they ARE IN the white house. Go grab some of the Bill Clinton campaign folks and fight back. This is a street brawl and again, five years of hell in a POW camp make it a walk in the park for McCain. If you want to win, fight back, if you don't, say hello to BUSH III.

Do Not Underestimate the Opponent.

m.c.j.: it's august, you have rove's boys slinging shit, you cannot speak about one thing YOU propose without contradicting a previous stance, you deliver canned lines then laugh (just like the chimp)....you are shooting your wad and it's only august....

anyone, ANYONE, who thinks Barack Obama is another Kerry either wants to see that comparison, via microscope if necessary or ...

everybody wants 'something different' from Obama's campaign response-wise, yet NO ONE has any track record of success with their 'advice'....

you want rove? go to the other side.....

You need to tear yourself from the intertubes and the talking heads on TeeVee and get out there. Remember the Kerry campaign? That was where they let attacks (see: "swiftboating") slide for three weeks and reliedc on the tired, old, ineffective "coordinated campaign" structure from back in the 2nd age of man. It was a yawner and the only reason there was any sort of excitement related to that campaign was because of the deep hatred for Bush/Cheney.

Yes, this is a different animal completely and if you got involved, even just long enough to stop into your nearest Dem office (or Obama campaign office) you might notice this.

Gone are the days of some cluelss big-talker being put in charge of a state then hiring lots of other clueless souls to be the "managers" and then recruiting some hapless volunteer from each local area to work 7 days a week "getting the message out". Replacing that we have field offices opening everywhere, no ground being left to the enemy. An army of dedicated, hard working young people are being sent to all the nooks and crannies to really make things happen. They are still working their tireless efforts to register new voters. They have been doing this themselves and recruiting many volunteers throughout communities everywhere to join the effort.

Your mistake is thinking these things play out exclusively on TV or that the "efforts" of the legions of keyboard commandos who've never seen the inside of a campaign office make the crucial difference. Not so I am happy to report. This is being run like a retail political effort. Team O is working the whole country much like all Presidential campaigns work Iowa in the primaries. This couldn't be more different from the Kerry campaign.

Julie

Obama is just more of the same shit. I don't trust him and I don't like him.

“Now, the man on the stand he wants my vote,
He's a-runnin' for office on the ballot note.
He's out there preachin' in front of the steeple,
Tellin' me he loves all kinds-a people.
(He's eatin' bagels
He's eatin' pizza
He's eatin' chitlins
He's eatin' bullshit!)”

Bob Dylan