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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:15 AM
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"One out of every two African-American pregnancies
end in abortion."

I heard this stated matter-of-factly this morning on C-SPAN. It came from the African-American piehole of Star Parker, conservative and President of Coalition for Urban Renewal and Education.

I didn't hear all the callers questions (I had to get ready for work) but I wonder if anyone called in to ask just where in the hell she was getting her facts!

Does she have any proof that thhis is true or was she, like all the other anti-abortionists that call in to C-SPAN (several months ago, some old geezer called in and said that 50 million abortions have been performed in the US), simply pulling these facts from the crack of her a$$.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:16 AM
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1. A complete and total lie......That woman has 3 brain cells, two of which are at war with each other.
:dunce: :dunce: :dunce:


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:17 AM
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2. She was speaking for herself
What an Ahole.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:21 AM
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3. Hey, Star. Would you like fries with your self-loathing?
Or did you order the ultra-cynical opportunism?
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:25 AM
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4. ...and performed by Bill Bennett!
if you're gonna lie, make it a big one.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:27 AM
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5. Abortion rate vs. abortion ratio
Confusing abortion ratio with abortion rate?

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5407a1.htm

CDC, 2002 US Abortion Surveillance

n the 37 reporting areas for which race was provided classified according to the same categories used in previous years, approximately 54% of women who obtained legal induced abortions were known to be white, 36% black, and 8% other; for 3%, race was not known (Table 9). The abortion ratio for black women (495 per 1,000 live births) was 3.0 times the ratio for white women (164 per 1,000), and the ratio for women of the nonhomogeneous "other" race category (357 per 1,000) was 2.2 times the ratio for white women. The abortion rate for black women (29 per 1,000 women) was 3.0 times the rate for white women (10 per 1,000), whereas the abortion rate for women of other races (20 per 1,000 women) was 2.1 times the rate for white women.
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For women whose age and race were known (35 reporting areas), the differences in age distributions of white and black women were relatively small. White women had a slightly higher percentage of abortions in the youngest (<19 years) and oldest (>35 years) age groups compared with black women (18% versus 17% and 12% versus 9%, respectively), whereas women of other races who had abortions tended to be older (Table 14). For women whose marital status and race were both known (32 reporting areas), the percentage of reported abortions among black women who were unmarried was higher (89%) than that among white women (80%) or among women of other races (64%). Among older (aged >35 years) women obtaining abortions whose age and ethnicity were known and reported adequately (28 reporting areas), the percentage of abortions obtained by non-Hispanic women (12%) exceeded that for Hispanic women (10%) (Table 15). Among women whose marital status and ethnicity were known and reported adequately (27 reporting areas), the percentage of reported abortions obtained by unmarried women was somewhat higher for non-Hispanic women (83%) than for Hispanic women (80%) (Table 15). Adequate data were not available to cross-classify race by Hispanic ethnicity.

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The differential between the abortion ratio for black women and that for white women increased from 2.0 in 1989 (the first year for which black and other races were reported separately) to 3.0 in 2002 (54). In addition, the abortion rate for black women has been approximately three times as high as that for white women (range: 2.6--3.1) since 1991 (the first year for which rates by race were published) (55). These rates by race are substantially lower than rates previously published by NCHS and indicate that the reporting areas for the 2002 report might not be truly representative of the U.S. black female population of reproductive age (27). Census Bureau estimates and birth certificate data indicate that a substantial majority of Hispanic women report themselves as white (5). Therefore, data for certain white women represent white women of Hispanic ethnicity.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 08:54 AM
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6. An abortion rate for black women of 495 per 1,000 live births means that 1 out of 3,
effectively, of African-American pregnancies ends in abortion, not 1 out of 2. (Of every 1500 pregnancies 1000 result in live birth and 500 end in abortion.)
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:01 AM
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7. Hmm......bizarre
I thought the Rethug talking point was that only selfish, white, career driven women get abortions and black women keep the kids for the welfare check.

Hard keeping track of the Rethug lies.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:11 AM
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8. delete
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 09:12 AM by Freddie Stubbs
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 09:23 AM
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9. Don't cloud the issue with facts, eh?
I've never met a neo-con that couldn't make up or exaggerate a "fact" when the truth wouldn't work. :puke:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:15 AM
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10. That "Education" Obviously Did Not Include Arithmetic…
…since the actual number is less than 1 out of 3. Which is still a lot.

Could be an indication that this population has difficulty obtaining/affording birth control.
If she really wants there to be fewer abortions, do something about that.

Of course, the wingers are trying to cut off access to birth control as well.


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