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tableturner Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 06:56 PM
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Running against GOP, hit first, keep hitting, or be hit & lose!
When will we learn? In presidential elections, and most other high level elections, either you hit the GOP candidates first, and keep pounding them to put them on the defensive, or they will hit you first without cessation, putting YOU on the defensive, and YOU will lose!

Obama is constantly defending himself and reacting to the McCain attacks, which prevents a discussion of the issues, and which deflects from Obama's ability to attack McCain, which lessens Obama's chance of victory. This of course is just what the slimy Republic Party wants!

Now I WILL say that at least Obama IS defending himself, and doing so as quickly as possible after being attacked, which is a LOT better than Gore and Kerry did, but that is NOT enough!

This election is a referendum on Obama. If McCain is constantly having to defend himself, he will have little time to attack Obama. Most of the public sees the abysmal results of GOP rule and WANTS to vote for Obama. They WILL, if they can become comfortable with him. The ONLY way McCain wins is to constantly cast doubt about Obama's fitness for holding the office of President, thereby preventing the swing voters from becoming comfortable with our guy.

Sure, we should be touting our superior policies, but we should do so while keeping McCain under attack. FORGET the damn high road! Pound him and pound him and pound him, and then pound him some more! Yes....STOOP TO THEIR LEVEL, because if we don't, they will destroy Obama's credibility. How about destroying McCain's credibility? How about preventing McCain from destroying Obama's credibility?

Pound McCain, damn it, and do so without cessation, or we lose!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 07:08 PM
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1. Short response ....
Right Fucking On !

I see a soft Obama campaign, with a weak assed message from the Democratic Party ....

Grow a fucking SPINE, and get after these GOP bastards ....

There is no way ANY GOP politician should be even close, yet McCain is a mere few points off ....

To paraphrase a good friend ... Let's Go Get Those GOP Bastards !

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 07:27 PM
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2. Running against GOP, canvass first, keep canvassing, or lose!
The only way we're going to win is by taking our case directly to the voters. Not by whining that the candidate isn't going postal.

Are you doing your part?

NGU.



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tableturner Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 09:17 PM
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6. It's NOT mutually exclusive!!
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 09:18 PM by tableturner
Yes, we have to take our message directly to the people. But doing that, and having our candidate fight hard and put McCain on the defensive, are NOT mutually exclusive options! If McCain successfully paints Obama as a high risk choice, the swing voters won't listen to our message.

Besides, given the results of the last eight years, most swing voters ALREADY are accepting of our message. At the present time, those voters are weighing whether or not Obama is ready and able to do the job, and also whether he as a person is too much of a risky choice to put in the White House. Let's show them why McCain is the risky choice!

By the way, I did NOT suggest that Obama go postal. I simply want him to hit McCain where it hurts with factually based attacks, and to do so constantly, keeping him on the defensive, which would definitely minimize his opportunities to attack Obama with lies.

Do you really think that we can win with McCain constantly attacking Obama, while the Obama campaign tries to take the high road?

The HELL with the high road! I'm sick of laying down and getting beaten! I'm sick of our party's ridiculous rope a dope strategy!

It's time to unrelentingly attack McCain with the truth, and there are plenty of factually based angles which can be used to do so. Let's fight back, damn it, and fight back with as much vigor and venom as they use against us. Pound him and pound him and pound him, then do it some more, and the attacks on Obama will slow considerably.

And one more thing: I'm sick of our weak Congressional leaders who seem to be afraid of their own shadows. This president has committed more impeachable offenses than did Nixon, and by a long shot, but they are afraid to act. If Nixon had gotten away with the same executive privilege strategy as Bush is successfully attempting, then he never would have been impeached. Heck, John Dean would not have even been compelled to testify! The Bush executive privilege strategy is in and of itself an impeachable offense, and that's before you even address all the other crimes!

Look....the weak Congressional responses to the unbelievable Bush crimes are very much related attitudinally to our usual weaselly rope a dope campaign strategies. Enough is enough!

On edit: Damn right I'm doing my part!
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zootlux Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 07:32 PM
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3. What happens if they steal the election... ?
Worst case is:
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:21 PM
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4. great post!
Congress should take a lesson from this as well! If Pelosi and other Democratic leaders had been holding impeachment hearings, Republicans wouldn't be getting any media coverage of today's "protest".

Democrats in Congress shouldn't be on the defensive, they should be using their majority to force McCain and other Republicans to pay for Bush's crimes! but when Democrats try to take the high road this always happens, they get attacked for opposing the neocons "energy plan" and for acting like dictators just for opposing offshore drilling in states like Florida!

If something doesn't change, Republicans will control every branch of government after this election! :banghead:
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:59 PM
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5. The only ideas the Rethugs have, all failed, and they have no others.
So what the hell else can they do but attack Obama. They are bankrupt of ideas.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:50 AM
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7. we need to hit, kick, bite, scratch, stomp.
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