Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Hamdan "Trial"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:38 PM
Original message
The Hamdan "Trial"
]i]The New York Times ran its editorial on the acquittal of Salim Hamdan this evening. It is mistitled Guilty as Ordered. Apparently the Times, like me, was expecting Hamdan to found guilty as Bush and Cheney had ordered.

If Salim Hamdan had been guilty as ordered, he would have been convicted on all counts, regardless of the evidence. That is what the Bushies wanted, according to Colonel Morris Davis, whom The New York Times quotes in this editorial.

The military commissions process created by a joint effort of the Bush administration and its collaborators in Congress is indeed a rigged system, or was designed to be. However, Americans apart from Messrs. Bush and Cheney and their flunkies in the Pentagon and Justice Department (I'm talking to you, Professor Yoo; are you paying attention, Mr. Gonzales? don't go to sleep on me, Mr. Addington) believe in due process and fair trials, especially trained jurists.

I was certain that Salim Hamdan would be found guilty on all charges. The Pentagon even got to hand pick the jury. We in the public would have done none the wiser, for in this misbegotten kangaroo court the evidence could be classified and the proceedings closed. The kangaroos refused to jump on the command of the neoconservatives. I think I owe an apology to Captain Keith Allred, the chief judge, and the jury for displaying a degree of professionalism and acquitting Hamdan on all charges except the one not in dispute: that he was Osama bin Laden's driver. Insofar as that in any kind of crime, it isn't a war crime. Making up reasons out of thin air to invade a sovereign nation is; torture is; and denying combat detainees due process is; but those are bridges to be crossed another day, by a band of rogues who wear western business suits rather than keffiyehs.

The verdict was not what was ordered. It is now Bush, Cheney and the other rogues who once again stand at the bar of world opinion awaiting a harsher verdict than one that could have been handed down against Osama's chauffeur. They are charged with constituting a kangaroo court so lacking in justice that the kangaroos would have none of it.

This would be a good time to revisit the military commission process, and shut it down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:50 PM
Response to Original message
1. tonight msm reported
that george and his posy responded to his sentence by stating that they would not release ANYONE they deemed a part of any terrorist group.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. That's George and his Posse
If that is allowed to stand, it makes this "trial" an even bigger farce. He's already been sentenced in what really is an extra-judicial process: the will of the dictator.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. thanks
amazing, no questions by msm. just read like a post script to a story.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 04:09 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC