Bill Clinton To Introduce Hillary who will announce she is proud Obama asked her to be VP

Women vote, Black Vote, Middle Class and Poor Vote, Spanish Vote. etc.
It will be a landslide.
Jimmy Jubes
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You heard it here first, folks--JimmyJubes is Obama's Veep!

He has more appeal than she ever will. She skated by on her last name and money for long enough.

by staying in the race long after it was clear she was going to lose and encouraging lingering bitterness among her supporters by frequently suggesting she was wrongly denied the nomination. Few major candidates in recent history have accomplished that.

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and blame him for Carter's loss in '80. Is that the mistake you want to see Hillary repeat?

No, she isn't held to a different standard. This is completely fair. I didn't dislike Hillary when this race started. She had to make a real effort to make me lose respect for her. Hillary is not a martyr.

except to express support for Obama or speak on his behalf. She seems to have trouble doing that. Other former Presidential candidates aren't having such a hard time with it. You seem to think she shouldn't be held to the same standard as others.

The vileness never ends. AND YOU WANT US TO SIGN ON FOR EIGHT YEARS OF THIS BELITTLING CRAP?

No. You need US. YOU grovel.

You didn't see Obama saying Hillary wasn't qualified to be President or making nasty, sarcastic speeches mocking her, as Hillary did. Obama has repeatedly complimented her, her supporters, and treated her with great kindness. Yet, we still see Hillary supporters on here acting like victims who have been horribly wronged and need to be placated. Why is that? She lost fair and square and is no more entitled to be VP or anything else any more than any other losing candidate.

No thanks, either you're a democrat or you're not. No grovelling here. Hillary's behavior during the primaries made me sick to my fucking stomach. She can either start the reconciliation or she can kiss my ass. I guess you'll be voting for McCain then since I'm not doing my fair share of grovelling?

unpleasantness....

That was a major accomplishment.

(as I push the little red 'x')

You've just discounted a lot of Democratic voters with your statement, and do absofuckinglutely nothing to help our chances at winning in the fall. You and your Hillary-hating ilk will sink us. Let me guess. You haven't accomplished a quarter of what Hillary Clinton has, before she was married to Bill.

actually welcome her on the ticket at this point, though wouldn''t prefer it.

the more people got to know both candidates, the better Obama did. Even in the states Hillary won it was only after losing massive ground to Obama in the polls. And Obama did better in population centers where he spent more time campaigning.
I give the Democratic voters a lot of credit. Given even more time to consider the candidates up close, I'm sure more would have chosen Obama just like Iowa voters did. Iowans were the ones who got to know them best. I give credit to the over 40% of New York Democrats who didn't vote for Hillary.
Hillary's support was never higher than on the day she announced, which suggests that most of her support was weak and based on familiarity. That also indicates that Obama doesn't need her help.

And if you think I'm worth ignoring then I wasn't worth responding to.

He barely won the nomination. A little humility would go a long way.

Don't need Hillary? Don't need her supporters? Well then, good luck in November.

I don't think I've ever heard her acknowledge how impressive it is that a relatively unknown freshman Senator beat one of the most recognized names in America who had a national donor base, experience in a national campaign, and the active support of a former President. I can't think of another candidate who started out with so many advantages and still managed to lose to such an underdog as Obama. The fact that her support went nowhere but down from the day she announced speaks volumes about how much Obama needs her. Her last name and stoking a victim mentality can only get her so far.

You really need to be more focused on the idea of winning the election. As opposed to venting spite.

I don't call her names or make nasty personal insults at her. I'm making fair, accurate points. But apparently that means I hate her. I also notice how often that accusation is used when people don't have a response to anything I write about her.

I think he would be wise to do so because she could help thwart the Fox News Horror Stories that play to the inner racist (I am not talking about the racists because they will vote for Insane In The McCain) I am talking about the inner racists who are looking for an excuse not to vote for him even though it is obvious he is the best candidate.
As far as your "skated" comment -- Hillary Clinton has made her name by doing the work of the people.


Oh and by the way she is going to be the VP choice because Obama is smarter than you are.

But I doubt it.

Even though it would be best for the country to have as someone as qualified and experienced and tested as Hillary on the presidential ballot, I doubt Obama will select her.

I believe he has too much personal resentment towards them to select Hillary as his VP, even if it would be best for him, for Democrats, and for the country.

He's going to select some no-name Democrat, which won't motivate anyone to come out and vote, all the while Republicans tear into him and turn what shouldn't be a close race, into a close race.

How many presidential races are we going to lose before our Democratic candidates realize it's a good thing to have the Clintons a part of your campaign?

I'm a Hillary supporter, and I would want her to select Obama as her VP if she won the nomination, because it would be best for everyone. Obama should do the same now that the roles are reversed. Get over her husband, and get over what happened in the primaries, and add her to the ticket, and guarantee a Democratic win in November, for the love of God.

it will be much harder to swiftboat him with something his postman said or whatever with Hillary as the attack dog.
it would stifle the inner racists and make them realize the clear choice.

I only see the media, especially Fox News saying this ---I see no resentment

And it's almost like our Democratic candidates get enjoyment from handicapping ourselves.

Why would we not have Clinton on the ticket? I figure that's pretty much game, set, match. Why would you go with with some of the other lesser known candidates being talked about? I can already picture some of them getting slaughtered in the VP debate.

You select Clinton at the VP, and you win. Period. I'd put money on it.

You select one of the other lesser known guys as VP, and you might win. But it's no sure thing.

I don't see why we would risk another four years of Republican rule by putting some unknown on the ballot. Between Obama and Clinton, you have enough voters to guarantee a win. With most of these other guys being talked about, you add nothing to the ticket. You add another fresh-faced guy which Republicans will hound and attack and criticize. You may say they'll do the same with Hillary, but she's a proven commodity, and we KNOW -- as does the rest of America -- she can withstand the attacks.

Why would we handicap ourselves? I really don't get it.

Select Hillary as the VP, and it's a guaranteed win. And she's even more qualified than most of those other names being thrown about. Why would you not select her? Because her husband said some mean things about Obama in SC? Because she said some mean things about him during the campaign? Because she might be too "strong" of a VP? Who cares? It would be best for Democrats, and best for America.

I trust them both well enough that I believe they can overcome any differences, and steer this country back on the right course. It makes me angry to think that Obama will select someone who no one's ever heard of, that will provide nothing to the ticket, and basically handicap us even more for the November election. It's ridiculous.

Nothing will do more to rally the conservative Republican base to John McCain than Obama selecting Hillary. They hate her and they have for years. They're not excited about McCain and may stay home or vote for Barr. But they'll show up to vote against Hillary if she's on the ticket. Imagine if McCain picked Dick Cheney or Don Rumsfeld because it would have nearly the same affect.

Yes, Hillary is a known commodity, and a plurality of Americans know they don't like her. She doesn't break 50% in favorability polls. She's guaranteed to lose us votes. An unknown VP candidate may not bring many votes outside their home state, but at least they won't lose us votes nationwide like Hillary would. Obama picking Hillary is the best way he could screw up this election.

well maybe it`s late enough so this post does`t turn into a flamefest

but watch out, the monkey bites;)

if he choses her.

:yourock:

... doesn't it strike you as a bit odd that Bill would still be speaking in less-than-enthusiastic terms about Obama, if he knew his wife would be on the ticket as VP?

Just wonderin' ...

:shrug:

:rofl:

He is speaking in less than enthusiastic terms.

back to doing his charity work..:) and I hope BC & HC eventually get her loss out of their systems and concentrate on making her Gov of NY ..

Hillary Clinton would be more of a drag on the ticket than a benefit, and really-- I don't think it would be very wise of Obama to place a DLC candidate one heartbeat from the presidency.

The Republican-types will come out and vote against the Democrat, regardless. Don't buy into the fact that they will be anymore motivated if Clinton is on the ticket. They WILL vote for McCain, you can book it.

You can't guarantee the same idealist Democratic-types will vote for Obama. Clinton will not be a drag on the ticket, she would guarantee a Democratic win in November. You basically unify the overwhelming Democratic vote we saw during the primaries, and that, coupled with what Republicans have done to our country, will be enough to win the presidency, period.

Who is Tim Kaine going to motivate to come out and vote? Who is Evan Bayh going to motivate to come out and vote? With Clinton on the ticket, you guarantee the votes of certain types whose votes cannot be guaranteed right now.

Well said.

Maybe it is just you

but, BC (no, not (B)efore (C)hrist) and HC will put on a good show of togetherness with BO.

Some pretty fantastic visuals you're having these days.

Just not real ones.

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So have another drink and watch Fox News and get angry at something else.