HEADS UP regarding these Edwards revelations...

Elizabeth Edwards is a DUer, she has been a member for quite a while, and is a wonderful person.

Not attempting to restrict or restrain conversation on the matter.

But please remember: she's a DUer, too.

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and may competing threads sink like stones. If repukes tap toes in men's bathroom stalls or have diaper sex with whores, they get standing O's from fellow pukes. Dems get piled on and I'm sick unto death of it. I adored the Edwardses, have and will continue to. Whatever was, was, it's over with and they obviously have peace within themselves and have worked through it together. If they have maintained their dignity, then IMHO the rest of us should respect that and leave it at that.

:)

Warts and all.

;)

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this with the expectation that it won't come out deserve what they get. their families don't. be well, Elizabeth and kids.

Let's hope the attack trolls take a vacation on this one.

Tell M$M to focus on Vitter, Craig and the Rethug perverts.

I wish you peace Elizabeth and John.

This crap on GEM$NBC is over the top as usual.

He won't support gay marriage because marriage is a union between a man and a woman, according to him..it just makes me sick. The fact that he does this to her WHILE she is going through her medical perils, having been in her very shoes, I find it all deplorable and my heart goes out to her AND my absolute support.

I think she's a wonderful person, and I hate to think of anyone here contributing to her pain.

This is sort of like impeaching Clinton for a bj, and it's none of our damned business. I feel badly for Elizabeth, the kids, and yes even John for having to endure this public scrutiny at a very private time. My thoughts are with the entire Edwards family.

My avatar and sig line stands.

I still think he had the best policy proposals and he still can do some good about ending poverty. He's human, and why oh why do we feel the need to hold some people to higher standards? He never claimed the high ground like so many republicans have and then been busted for their hypocrisy.

No matter who it's aimed at.

If this is none of our business was Larry Craig's dealings really our business.

Or for that matter the GOP senator from Louisiana and his involvement with a hooker?

You see I believe you can be a progressive without having to surrender your objectivity and consistency.

I can not tell you the number of people (who do not play close attention to politics) who could and can not understand how people in the Democratic party go nuts over a GOP sex scandal but stay strangely silent when a senior Dem gets caught up in the same sort of conduct.

Laugh if you would like but that is one of the things that caused Gore problems in 2000 (and yes I know he won the popular vote, however if Clinton had known how to keep his pants zipped in the White House then Gore would have won by significantly more that 500k and most likely would have won in Florida and we would have been spared the following seven years of total crap).

Now go ahead and have at me if you most.

But I still say situational ethics (which is what the argument about who cares what a Democrat does in his private life but on the other hand any time a GOP type breathes wrong or sneezes wrong than the whole wrath of God should come down on him).

If we sow to the wind we should not be surprised if some day we will reap a whirlwind.

Time Will tell, and we shall see.

But we better hope to God that none of our senior Democrats get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, sexually or any other way.

Which is all too obviously equal to that found in the boy's locker room of a Junior High School.

Craig, Vitter, Foley, Gingrich, Guilliani, et.al. were all involved in this whole sanctification of so called "family values" all the while they were screwing around on their wives. That IS HYPOCRACY!

To my knowledge, John Edwards did not do any thing like that. If he did, then shame on him.

But Edwards blathered on and on about how marriage is for one man and one woman, and holy as all get out, and his sanctity must prevent him from supporting equal marriage rights for all. So Yes he did, and shame on him indeed.
I loved the guy, and even forgave his sanctimonious religiousity about gay equality, but now all of his preachy bullshit looks like the posings of a smug and entitled a-hole hypocrite deluxe. First order.
He's a creep.

He told his family, let them work through it in peace.

They have perfectly lovely wives like Elizabeth, and they have to fool around.

Elizabeth is beautiful, smart, has a kind heart and soul, and somehow that isn't enough? I wonder what happens to men like John...I think they get too big for their britches.

Elizabeth Edwards would have been a great First Lady, the best since Jackie Kennedy. It's a real shame.

Sending good thoughts to Elizabeth and her children.

I found out my boyfriend had engaged in a one night stand with a friend of mine.

He said, "A standing prick has no conscience".

Yes, people in committed relationships, especially that of husband and wife with children should exercise more self control, but sometimes lust trumps all, especially common sense.

:hug: to Elizabeth. I hope she can have some privacy in this.

cheat on your wife, or vice versa.

Good post.

I really really really like both Elizabeth and John Edwards.

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She is so lovely and smart!

I was unaware of that.

Not likely to comment on this, but a general headsup for respect sake is in order.

with the freepers.

He's a great man and would have done even more for us than Obama can. He knows the courts like the back of his hand.

and you think words that point out his hypocrisy NOT hers are going to hurt her?

I think the point is that there is neither reason nor call for anyone on DU to exacerbate what is most likely an already troubling and trying time for Mrs. Edwards...

In other words... just use a little civility and a little tact. It's really not that difficult.

spade a spade. Indeed it's a troubling time for Elizabeth but it was wrought through his deeds only and to think that pointing out his hypocrisy and betrayal is going to hurt her after what he has done, how obtuse.

Not being condescending... maybe obvious, but not condescending.

Justify it how you want. I simply think that some civility would go a lot farther than some cleverly worded pejorative knowing that Mrs. Edwards is a poster on DU.

I'm not being obtuse at all, just attempting to illustrate some empathy for a fine woman.




Now, now little chief... don't get all persnickety just because someone tries to point out the obvious to you. (See... *that* was me being condescending)

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heck, why not go ahead and do that now? thanks for the idea, will...

OFFICIAL "We love you, Elizabeth Edwards" thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3753646

John Edwards Appreciation Thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3753857

erm, that was me.

and you're way hotter then that other women ;)

Many families have a few problems now and again. That's life. It's no big deal.

A marriage is what two people agree to.

the good and clean of families - yes stress drives you the wrong way sometimes - so much time away from family and knowing your spouse is dying - wow - it could happen to any of us but we are not in the national spot light. Elizabeth seems to be such a dear and stood behind him.

Building a house, running around the world, quitting the senate job, having a wife with cancer, etc. yes I know people are fallible but jeez how can you possible think at a celebrity level this would stay hidden - crap for both of them -

I am so sorry this man's goodness will be trashed by this mistake - the denying I understand - I have learned over time, you deny things - that is what the republics have done so well and gotten away with - but the dems - well they get caught every time - and yes the unauthorized wire tapping I am sure has been used to target liberals -

Gosh - Elizabeth, I am so sorry for the pain this must have been when you found out, but to now have it on a World stage, with children and everything hearing this - it makes it doubly hard

I hate that you have to go through this too

Good luck with your life whatever you choose to do now, Elizabeth

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An affair with an adult woman... how lame. I want blood and guts.

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and one is much worse than the other. I'm still sad and disappointed.

There's nothing anyone is going to say that is so Earth shattering it needs YET ANOTHER thread.

a loved one is unspeakable. I don't know what is wrong with males...but the institute is stepping up its research.

Maybe someday we'll find an antidote to such behavior.

Elizabeth...I admire you. You are truly too good for him.

So the political process for Dems continues to be, since George McGovern, the dilemma of a bar so high it is irrational to expect a human being to top it honestly and accepted by rank and file members who don't believe in the validity of any such bar or the judgments it represents.

Again this succeeds, not just because of the desperate dishonesty of the fallible Dem with too much ego and passion to be sacrificially cautious toward the GOP jungle beasts. Why? As with all fraud and distractions in this tyranny, this long coup d-etat, the smear machine and its standards and purpose is never confronted. In fact, it is not the isolated behavior of many or few pols that are the issue so much as the institutional facade used as a shadow puppet theater by neo-fascists. Two thousand years ago the staid tried and true and many centuries precedented practice of automatically smearing the prophet ran up against someone who has not yet been proven the philanderer, false prophet, immoral hypocrite the Pharisees set as the brand leading to his death. Charges are false or true, it makes no difference. It is still the politics of destruction to match disaster economics and tyranny and the rule of lies.

So used to the barrage of baseless slander and the overwhelming hypocrisy and behavior of the other side are we in fact that even the reality of Dem bad behavior- even though it compromises our fight for democracy and the handling of issues as they should be handled- is just one more noise from the Hell machine, chortling hate-filled opportunistic babble irrelevant to nearly ALL the relevant issues it might raise.

The need to raise Obama on a pedestal is a false need born from the failure to confront the clear picture of a society owned by the bad guys, the onerous, outdated, extinction threatening bad old world revealed in all its puerile/senile small numbers of utterly conscience-less dominators and still left in charge and propped by the sorriest performing top institutions for good the world has witnessed absent the cover of ignorance or crisis.

On another post it reports the Guardian(a foreign paper that can think, which is beyond the simplest capacity of American journalistic) notes the shattering crisis of capitalism and the absence of timely voices from the left. These same institutions of the left easily accepted the blatant fraud of 2004 and had nothing to offer even in the way of a renewed fight. These same institutions were ineffectual about the war and the corporate media. Somehow the Right sticks out its glass jaw, but because it wears
the crown, all eyes all punches are diverted.

Edwards, out of elected office was only a faint contender, a fall back guy whose main virtue was in being safely vetted. An attack on him personally was thus an attack(again brought on in the cowardly fashion by the outliers of the smear machine) to feed the Hell machine and spread fear and distrust and division. As with Jesse Jackson, how was it relevant for the the entire machine to make it a big issue? Because it fits the higher desire that Obama, as all higher Dems, are kept from confronting the real evil directly. Their hour, the hour of darkness has been over televised and rerun too many times. I switch them off, don't give a damn about any fact or lie they care to beam and call them out for treason, fraud, slander, murder, a clear and present danger to the entire world and utterly destructive in their occupied seats of stolen, bought responsibility. Further, Jackson was a constant thorn threatening this system and edwards had begun a clear thrust to challenge parts of it that might end up effecting the new administration and where its mandate really comes from.

The thrashings of the threatened power structure will be more bloody and miserable by far until they are faced down, much more important than winning a contest, playing by their rules. How they make you suffer or kill you, great or small, is merely a tedious repetition as long as the phony war of appeasement crawls out of this mess.

There were always far too many personal judgments about all the candidates in search of a smear, eager for false evidence, ready to be smug with proof of confession. In face of millions of dead and still dying and the scourge on the future this is corruption making people who give such any credit worthy of the wolf packs leading this nation to ruin.

It's dignified and shows great compassion.

She is a wonderful and courageous woman. I admire her greatly. They will weather this storm gracefully and John will be, Attorney General, someday. He has too much talent and knowledge to let a mistake derail his political career. I'm thinking that all this has come awash before the Convention to make sure he's not chosen for Vice President. He's a treat to the Neocon agenda. That's the only reason he's being trashed every hour on Faux News. I'll say this he's no, Foley, Craig or Vitter. The jerk media is having a field day because they finally have fresh meat, of the other variety. Vultures. Actually they like carrion. Feeding on the death and destruction of a formerly existing event. The dead, the old, the tired, the sick are fair game in Vulture Land. Vulture-Voyeurs. I'd like to print a whole string of expletives here but will refrain for the sake of propriety. Use your imagination.