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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:33 PM
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It's still none of my business and unless your name is Elizabeth Edwards
it's none of yours either.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:35 PM
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1. I feel compassion for Elizabeth (woman is battling cancer and her
husband is cheating on her?). Sorry, that's upsetting to me.
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ConeFlower78 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:35 PM
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2. That's how I feel too


....don't care, not my business.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 01:42 PM
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42. that's a good way to be but then, you have to apply it to the other
side too. john mccain and the rest, if they cheat and get caught, we have to ignore them too. right?
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ConeFlower78 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:06 PM
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43. Of course


...I feel that it is personal no matter what. Not my job to judge McCain on his marriage & fidelity; I judge him on his politics.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:47 PM
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44. cool.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:35 PM
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3. That's true. But then I didn't give him money, volunteer for him or vote for him either.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:36 PM
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4. Bless her heart. I can't imagine how she must feel, to have everyone airing her family's laundry.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:36 PM
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5. It becomes our business the second the MSM starts claiming..
"Democrats are bad because they all cheat on their wives", which we all know is coming.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:39 PM
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10. I really don't think recent Republican scandals will render this credible
Of course the AM talk radio thugs and FoxNoise will peddle that line of crap, but who listens/watches that junk AND would vote for Obama, anyway?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:41 PM
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12. The MSM ignores republican scandals.
Dem scandals are always pursued in great detail. Haven't you been watching the past 10 years?
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:38 PM
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6. Pretty much agree.
It's not like he's trying to impeach a President for lying about a blowjob while having this affair.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:38 PM
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7. True. He didn't' break any laws by denying the allegations to the press.
He broke his marital vows, but apparently Elizabeth has known about this since 2006? So it's not even news to her.

I AM disappointed in him, however. I prefer male politicians who respect their wives enough to stay faithful to them. When they don't, it makes me question their faithfulness to the cause of women's rights.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:06 PM
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29. He may have broken campaign finance ethics if not rules.
He paid this woman to make videos of him. Then he never used the videos. Wonder why?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:10 PM
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35. Don't know. Maybe they weren't very good. That would be a business decision.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:38 PM
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8. He made a point apparently
of telling ABC that when he began this affair that Elizabeth's cancer was in remission. I guess that makes it acceptable then huh?

Sorry it does matter. It is my business as long as this guy keeps running and asking me to trust him. I can't. I don't, and I won't ever again.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:39 PM
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9. The details are not relevant. The single fact that his word isn't worth much is.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:48 PM
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17. That's what it comes down to.
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 02:48 PM by Mike Daniels
If he were some guy down the street I couldn't give a damn.

However, he was a candidate for president who made promises to people as to what he stood for.

Since he's apparently all too willing to cheat on his wife what's to say he wouldn't cheat on the people who voted for him after the election?

I don't expect politicians to be "pure" but I expect to be able to trust their word when they offer it. Edwards just proved that he's not worthy of that trust.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:40 PM
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11. It is my business.
I donated, not just money, but a lot of time to Edwards. He had the best ideas and I believed he was the best person. He lied because he knew he would not be the candidate and could not be elected if he told the truth.

He still should have told the truth. Because, had he told the truth, he would not have been a serious contender. Many of us who supported him would have supported someone who was more electable such as Dodd or Biden or we would have supported Kucinich, giving him a better chance to get media coverage.

As it is, Edwards took a very activist portion of the Democratic primary vote, split the liberal vote, so to speak, when he had to have known he could not win and, had he won, would have been completely unelectable.

I worked so hard on his campaign. You have no idea of the hours I spent working on his campaign that I could have spent working for someone else. I feel personally betrayed. An apology is not enough. I will never get back the hours I worked for Edwards' campaign, the money I donated to him (that I really could not afford) and my personal reputation and the respect I have in my community that I lose for having backed someone who lied.

This is the second time that I have worked very hard for a candidate who, I learned later, lied about his past. This just turns me off to being an activist. And, by the way, I will vote for Obama, but I don't trust him either -- for other reasons. I just don't trust any of them.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:48 PM
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19. So he's human
and was unfaithful to his wife. Bush killed thousands.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:45 PM
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13. What kind of universe do some of you live in?
Clinton almost got kicked out of office. Governor of NY lost his job. But hey, it's nobody's business if a politician (a former presidential candidate, no less) admits to an affair? Denial, it ain't just the river in Egypt.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:46 PM
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15. Neither of theirs were any of my business either.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:48 PM
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Well, it was somebody's business, or Governor of NY would
still have his job.
Hello? What if Edwards got the nomination and it came out now? Not only an affair, but his former mistress also had a baby, although he claims the baby is not his.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:51 PM
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21. Nothing is going to make who other people sleep with my business
Sorry, I was taught how to mind my own business.


And anyway it's republicans who base their votes on how someone lives their lives.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:03 PM
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28. La-la land, apparently.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:46 PM
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14. Does that go for John McCain and his ex wife as well?
?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:47 PM
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16. Yes.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:48 PM
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18. That's all I'm looking for
the same standard applied to both.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:56 PM
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22. I don't apply the same standard. I defend Democrats, I know it's stylish on DU to turn on them as
fast as you can, "in thaa name of ETHICS!" I've always been a believer in "pretty good government." As far as McCain's cheating, I do feel the same about it though, it's not my business.

But on most things involving politics I do have a double standard.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:48 PM
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20. Oh, yes it is.
He apparently used campaign contributions to finance this woman's expenses and to give her a job she wasn't qualified for. He also has made the entire party look bad. It's also "my business" because if he had been the nominee, this would have been an unmitigated disaster.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:24 PM
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33. You can't have it both ways
He can't be that high up in the party hierarchy and not be culpable for the shit that he does.
It doesn't work that way, as much as people want to pound on the "not your business" drum.

If sordid details were no one's business, we would never have seen Mark Foley threads here.
Or Larry Craig ones. But we do, and we will.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 04:09 PM
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34. Did you mean to reply to me?
Or the OP?
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 05:54 PM
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36. Was expanding on your point, sorry nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:58 PM
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23. It is my business, and the business of everyone who supported him.
He broke a duty of trust with US.

We backed him. We supported him through January of this year.

Yes, it is our business.

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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:59 PM
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24. It's my business that a candidate for President who asked for my support and took my money
turns out to be such an asshole.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 02:59 PM
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25. Fucking word n/t
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:00 PM
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26. Yes, it is.
Such affairs speak to a person's character. Given that Edwards is a public figure who is wanting power in the form of a public office, such character flaws matter.

Stop trying to blame the public, the media, or anybody else. Blame the man who couldn't keep it in his pants, John.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:00 PM
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27. Bullshit.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:07 PM
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30. It really isn't my business. It's not like he was some preacher railing against gays..
and then being a closet one cheating on his wife. Those bother me, this doesn't really. S*it happens. It sucks for his wife and kids, though. But the same thing happened to me (my Dad cheated), and I ended up OK in the end.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:09 PM
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31. This isn't like he can't control his bladder. You said "shit happens", but in this case he made it
happen.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 03:21 PM
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32. indeed.
te press ignores substantial bush crimes. HEY! EXXON HAS BEEN BLOWING GEORGIE! or is georgee blowing the oil companies?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:13 PM
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37. Well, well, looks like someone agrees with me



Today
by elizabethedwards
Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 04:40:51 PM PDT

Our family has been through a lot. Some caused by nature, some caused by human weakness, and some – most recently – caused by the desire for sensationalism and profit without any regard for the human consequences. None of these has been easy. But we have stood with one another through them all. Although John believes he should stand alone and take the consequences of his action now, when the door closes behind him, he has his family waiting for him.

* elizabethedwards's diary :: ::
*

John made a terrible mistake in 2006. The fact that it is a mistake that many others have made before him did not make it any easier for me to hear when he told me what he had done. But he did tell me. And we began a long and painful process in 2006, a process oddly made somewhat easier with my diagnosis in March of 2007. This was our private matter, and I frankly wanted it to be private because as painful as it was I did not want to have to play it out on a public stage as well. Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication, because of a picture falsely suggesting that John was spending time with a child it wrongly alleged he had fathered outside our marriage, our private matter could no longer be wholly private.

The pain of the long journey since 2006 was about to be renewed.

John has spoken in a long on-camera interview I hope you watch. Admitting one’s mistakes is a hard thing for anyone to do, and I am proud of the courage John showed by his honesty in the face of shame. The toll on our family of news helicopters over our house and reporters in our driveway is yet unknown. But now the truth is out, and the repair work that began in 2006 will continue. I ask that the public, who expressed concern about the harm John’s conduct has done to us, think also about the real harm that the present voyeurism does and give me and my family the privacy we need at this time.


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/8/193337/7354/473/564989
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:49 PM
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41. It doesn't change the fact that he should have never been in the primary race.
KNOWING that this could come out and hurt more than just him and his family. That's the problem here. If he hadn't been running for PRESIDENT, I wouldn't care about this a bit, except for having compassion for them and their children. I would be just as adamant that it be kept private and just as angry about it being made so public. But now I'm just pissed that he risked OUR future by not swallowing his own ego and bowing out of the race.

And now, this publicity can take the spotlight while people stop trying to dig skeletons out of Obama's closet. So, thanks for at least that, my cheating, lying friend, Mr. Edwards.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:17 PM
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38. Yes, exactly
and I wish it could have stayed a private family matter, but it didn't. :/
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:41 PM
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39. How did you get so smart?
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:49 PM
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40. Agreed.
It's completely irrelevant to everyone else. MYOB.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:51 PM
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45. Dream on.
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