he's still wicked cool in my book.

The other stuff is between him and his wife.

Love the guy. He's not the only man faced with the mortality of his spouse who looked elsewhere. The stats are amazing.

the exact opposite thing about people who cheat. The EXACT opposite.

If you want to know why I remember that, you can PM me.

What I am upset about is that this man's private life is being splashed all over the internet. When my friends, neighbors cheat, it's not the subject of thousands of posts on the internet. Or a media circus.

I will go to my grave despising cheating and I certainly think it is wrong, but I've never said that I should be able to judge someone based on their cheating. I don't know what goes on in someone's bedroom. Actually, I don't want to know.

As far as my private life goes, I would never cheat on my husband. If I felt compelled to do so, I would leave him. I know he feels the same way.

I don't do a lot of gravedancing type posts even about Republicans who have cheated, because I do feel it's private.

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you lose your privacy. It's part of the deal.

issue in another thread,unless your opinion varies from thread to thread depending on what the OP thinks. AAAH,I get what you are doing you are being a thread OP suck up!! THAT is what it is.snicker..

Never once ever have I ever said that cheating is okay. I love John Edwards for lots of reasons, but I believe this is between he and his wife. It doesn't negate once he's done. Cheaters suck. Cheating sucks.

Your thinly veiled calling me a liar is noted, however. Thanks, bunches.

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :hi: :hug::hug:

OH MEOW

One of my cats is always DEMANDING that I kiss her :)

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On top of that, Presidential Elections are like Rock Star events now (at least on our side.. McCain still puts them to sleep). It can't be easy at all.. Really, we should give them their time to heal and be their for Elizabeth as she battles cancer... Its a battle she won't win eventually.

glad he's not in the picture, now let's move on

However, his bullshit pontificating about how he just couldn't bring himself to support gay marriage because he believes that marriage is soooooo sacred, while simultaneously violating his OWN damned marriage all to hell and back?

I can tolerate flawed humans, but I give no quarter to hypocrites who oppose my equality based on "morals" and then go on to display absolutely NO fucking morals at all.

It hurt me so badly when he said he opposed gay marriage, because I thought he was a Good Guy--therefore I wondered if maybe, just maybe, there was something wrong with *me*.

Now I know the truth, and it burns me up. He can go to hell.

Sure you have. I have too. We all have. You make the best of it.

Have you ever made terrible choices? Especially during a stressful period of your life? Sure you have. I have too, horrible ones, especially in retrospect. We all have.

So today we discovered that John Edwards is not from Mt. Olympus. This is not a surprise.

terminally ill to have an extra marital affair. I'm not excusing him. I am very saddened by this news because I really really like John Edwards.

As much as I despise cheating, it's none of my business. He's not my husband.

You are 100% correct. People are assuming this had something to do with Elizabeth. I'm fairly sure she would share that point of view but it is likely wrong. He's an alpha male and a good looking one at that, therefore this was the easiest drug to use to numb the pain. He's going to lose his life partner and his best friend. Almost anyone would numb that one for a while. Unfortunately, in our society, he will be pilloried for this choice while he would have been pitied for the others (alcohol, oxycontin, pot etc.).

wife and started dating relatively soon thereafter? Married men like being married. It's extremely rare that a married man leaves his marriage because he's unhappy unless there's someone else.

Women, OTOH, DO leave marriages because they're unhappy. Even in there isn't another waiting for her.

I don't help deprive other people of their rights. If I had the power of a Senator, I'd probably make bad choices too, but NONE of them would involve me helping to deprive other citizens of their constitutional right to equality under the law.

With the privilege of power comes the weight of responsibility. Edwards had a responsibility that he failed, in a self-serving and painful that that hurt a LOT of people--not just his own family. To me, he's no different than a GOP jerk who opposes gay marriage while violating his own hetero marriage. Worse if anything, because the GOP jerks don't pretend to be on OUR side.

Edwards is not a victim, save for being a victim of his own selfish choices. But other people are, thanks to him and people like him. His poor wife more than anyone. Stop trying to defend him. The sheer magnitude of his selfishness and unconcern for others is BEYOND defense.

I'm not sure how anything I said could be construed as funny, but hey. I'm a GLBT American citizen. I'm used to other Democrats thinking that my civil rights and the hurt that I'm going through are something petty and small and unworthy of serious consideration.

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I'd vote for John Edwards in a heartbeat. He was THE politician who really helped us in New Orleans. He came here a dozen times and WORKED HIS ASS OFF in the heat, just like everyone else.



Btw, note those who are pretending to be concerned for Elizabeth and the kids, at John's expense... many are from the 'sour grapes' crowd. ;)

to Super Tuesday. This is my first and hopefully last post about this, but my thoughts are with Elizabeth. Not at John's expense, but this has gotta hurt even though she apparently knew about it in '06, it's being made very public again. Ouch! :hi:

:hi: :hug:

My comment at the bottom refers to a select group of people, supporters of another candidate, who are now trashing John while pretending to be concerned about Elizabeth and her kids. They behaved poorly toward other candidates and their supporters, including John and Elizabeth Edwards, during the primaries... they are entertaining, to say the least. :D

just wanted to state for the record that my thoughts really are with Elizabeth right now as this has got to be re opening a nasty wound.

I try very hard to ignore those who behaved poorly, and I think I'm gonna go outside, grab a beer, stick my feet in the water and my nose back into my re reading of The Shock Doctrine. :toast:

Perhaps I'll see you later in the Malloy thread. :hug:

Gonna play with my band at a party then maybe head to the French Quarter. :party:

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Sucks to be me, lol!

You noticed that, too? :pals: GMTA! (Hang in there, Swampy!)

:hi: :pals:

The Morlocks are on the Moors tonight. :D

http://vwt.d2g.com:8081/morlocks.jpg

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3753286&mesg_id=3753286

That is a great pic of Elizabeth and John. :-)

Yes, I said that during the Clinton scandal as well. By the way, off topic a bit, but are you from the Boston area?

It's not my place to judge, and it never has been.

but that's just me... :shrug:

thank goodness. :eyes:

by all means, go right ahead :(

He's lying scum, and apparently he's been paying her off, through intermediaries, for some time.

He had his aide take the hit for his infidelity. He's a lowlife.

He's a lowlife.

The guy stood up to the Machine. I'll stay standing with him in the real fight.

I mean, that's pretty shitty. :shrug:

CANCER-STRICKEN WIFE!!!

we really do eat our own, don't we?

shitty or not, this is ELIZABETH'S problem, and the decision on whether or not to forgive him is up to HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I supported the man, in part, because I felt he had character. I was wrong.

he just has a weak dick. whooopty-doo.

when giving in could have long-reaching consequences is a sign of character.

and anybody who pretends the consequences are more far-reaching than that - are puritanical assholes.

This damages the party and, had the circumstances been just a touch different, could have cost us the Presidency. He knew he had this baggage going in -- why did he run?

I agree completely. What's wrong with calling things as we see them and giving honest and direct criticism to behaviors we find abhorrent? So many of us on this board were thoroughly entertained and disgusted with the actions of Mark Foley, Larry Craig and David Vitter. It's not judgemental to hold our leaders to account.

"Don't tell me I don't. IT'S THE WAY IT IS."

McCain is a repeat offender in the "cheating-on-the-wife department." C'mon, I double-dog-dare 'em.

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to his upbringing as a reason to not support my rights to be treated as something more than a second class citizen - he was having an affair. I was a total JE supporter - but this really pisses me off.

Somehow in his mind, it was proper for him to have 2 woman but not for me to have my man - and I've been happy to blast the Republican hypocrites, I'm not about to play it different for a man just because he's got a big D behind his name.

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I'd vote for him in a minute!

Do I feel sorry for Elizabeth? Absolutely. I respect her choice, however, to remain married, and assume that she knows what is best for her--something that many people on this board seem to doubt.

Gee, he's a human being who made a mistake. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

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even though I was not as excited about his campaign now as I was in 2004.

If I had my (and others') wish, he would have been our nominee now... and hello President McCain.

If he had the affair in 2006 and it was over, he should have come out and admit it before he announced his candidacy.

Read this

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/26/edwards-mystery-innocuous_n_66070.html

And persuing no national office!! He has a personal matter to see to that has nothing to do with the upcoming election !! Get the oil and the stake!! Get me Wolf HowitzerGuy*!!

Must be Friday...

Cat Woman m'dear :hug: :loveya: :D

*This line was stolen from David Spade, if I am not mistaken. If not him, I ah buggrit it ain't mine :rofl:

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(I shouldn't jibe, but especially given his comments re: Clinton/Lewinski way back when, without bothering to apologize to Clinton or attempt to justify his nefarious activity...)

But he ain't cool.

Edwards doesn't owe anyone but Elizabeth and his family an explanation or an apology.

He used their contributions to pay off his mistress.

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That's what I tried to tell people today. This is a private matter, and I don't care WHO doesn't like it. It has nothing to do with his ability to lead or not to lead, his ability to make decisions for the good, and I think that anyone who pays attention to such shit needs to get a life. John and Elizabeth need to have their own space, and tough to anyone who doesn't agree with that assessment. In fact, he can't even be considered a "public figure" anymore, just a private citizen. And private citizens get to keep their lives away from public scrutiny.

It starts again, ladies and gentlemen.

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Sorry, but it looks like the same shit all over again.

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Except it was about SEX, and there is nothing more important to Americans than SEXCAPADES except for DEATH, and DEATHCAPADES. Not that America is utterly addicted to drama for drama's sake.

Wicked cool.:thumbsup:

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