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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:10 PM
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Don't almost 1/2 of ALL marriages deal with infidelity at some point?
Wouldn't that mean 1/2 of Congress
1/2 of the media
1/2 of the reporters
1/2 of the National Enquirer staff
1/2 of the voters
1/2 of the Dems
1/2 of the Republicans
1/2 of the people who post on this board ?????

Why not just acknowledge that this is fact of life and the ONLY people really impacted are the people involved.

Are we just going to throw out half the population from public office?

This is NOT a good litmus test for public service.

I wish that EVERYONE in the future would answer ANY inquiry about their personal sex life as

"None of your beeswax." THAT would mean that we finally all grew up and removed this stupid, stupid fixation from our public discourse.

(I of course make an exception to any situation involving sexual harassment, abuse, prostitution, sleeping with Mata Hari, etc. I am strictly referring to adult consensual sex that involves no one but the actual parties involved.)

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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:11 PM
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1. Yes - only Freeptards make a big deal about this
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 06:13 PM by FreakinDJ
because it leaves the underlying message "you can't trust a democrat"

Personaly I rather have a president getting a little on the side rather then letting corporation out right screw the American people
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:17 PM
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5. Plerase drop the politik and hypocritical bullshit. It only makes you look like you don't
care about other people and want to justify utter selfishness. Repubs certainly do not have a monopoly on that concept!

When repubs are caught, all hell breaks loose.

When dems are caught, don't expect me to feel any differently. I only feel ambivalence - two conflicting emotions; one of empathy and the other of disdain.

Some issues surely transcend politics.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:12 PM
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2. yes.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:15 PM
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3. Well, THAT SURE AS HELL IS NO EXCUSE OR JUSTIFICATION!!!
Only shows a bunch of wankers who, for various reasons, find an easier way out.

The people who cheat have spouses who are affected. If the cheater gets a disease, gets someone else pregnant, then your quaint idea that only the "people involved" are impacted is thrown out. A baby's life becomes involved, some babies are born with fatal diseases because their parents were too (can't say it), and with infectious diseases, especially easily mutable ones that can cross-replicate and become even more virile, ultimately affects EVERYONE -- like it or not.

So for health reasons alone, there is no possible way to say it doesn't affect anyone else apart from the cheater, its spouse, and the one he felt he had to fuck. (or she, women can cheat too... not that either gender should, but that's beside the point.)

Yes, there are legitimate cases for divorce. But just how pedantically granular would you like this conversation to get?
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:23 PM
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8. Cheaters don't necessarily get diseases or produce a baby with the other
Some people might even be more careful with birth control and condoms than if they were single for fear of being found out or causing more harm than the simple infidelity. Cheaters aren't necessarily promiscuous. Some cheaters pribably only cheat with one other person.
I am not saying that cheating is alright, just that sometimes it only affects those directly involved.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:25 PM
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9. It should be a warning to the Henry Hydes of the world.
Before you get all holier-than-thou, just remember that if you haven't or haven't yet cheated, there's a good chance your spouse has.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:26 PM
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10. I was including spouses in the "people involved".
Of course they are impacted. And they have a decision to go or stay. I have heard that children can be the result of sexual relations, so that is not news to me or anyone else. All children are the result of their parent's decisions or indecisions.

Your public health concerns are noted, but since adultery has been around since time immemorial, I would say it's here to stay.


"Pedantically granular"???

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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:17 PM
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4. It's the Bill Clinton Mistake . . .
To say "no I didn't . . ." rather than "none of your fuckin' business . . ."

Lying is the sin here (the Bush administration, of course, gets a pass because they haven't -- apparently -- lied about sex).

Americans are bat-shit crazy when it comes to sex.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:19 PM
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6. Everyone, at some point or another,
finds themselves in the position of at least wanting to get flat and naked with someone completely inappropriate. That's part of the human condition.

And yeah, there are other people involved. Yes, those other people bear the brunt of the infidelity. It is just one of those things, and it's no-one's business if they aren't directly affected.

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:19 PM
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7. America is a land of fairy tales populated by sex obcessed hypocritical juveniles.
It's the only explanation for the kind of reaction we always see regarding these things.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:38 PM
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11. Real lesson- lying about sex is worse than the sex itself
So, DON'T LIE!!!!

I am totally serious when I say that people will have to learn to say

"That question invades my and my family's privacy and the privacy of the person you are alluding to. it has nothing to do with the issues at hand. On principle, I will not answer that question."
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 07:10 PM
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12. some statistics
"Alfred Kinsey has found in his studies that 50% of males and 26% of females had extramarital sex <1>. Depending on studies, it was estimated that 26-50% of men and 21-38% women<2>, or 22.7% of men and 11.6% of women had extramarital sex<3>. Other authors say that between 20% and 25% Americans had sex with someone other than their spouse<4>. Durex's Global Sex Survey has found that 44% of adults worldwide have had one-night extramarital sex and 22% have had an affair<5>. But there were also studies that have shown rates of extramarital sex as low as 2.5%<2>. As many authors say, this kind of estimates are probably understated because extramarital sex is commonly disapproved."

(wikipedia)

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