I stand with Elizabeth Edwards and I , too , am proud of how John conducted himself today.

He handles himself with grace and humility and I am proud of the way he dealt with this painful episode.

The Nightline interview was blunt and honest. It was also obvious that there is more that is not being said. I think there is more to this story and it is political.As Democrats we certainly eat our own and this is a very sad commentary.
God Bless John and Elizabeth Edwards and their families. I hope all the other who have made this matter into an unnecessary spectacle and rejoice in the suffering of others get what they deserve.

You of all people should know about that.

I give my support to all Dems who deserve it.And Elizabeth and John deserve respect for all their efforts.

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I am disappointed in both of them, yet have the most sympathy for Elizabeth for being the victim of someone else's infidelity.

I just feel sadness. The Edwards are good people, and I just hate the idea of creepy people like Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh, who probably have some pretty dark, repulsive secrets in their closets, pointing fingers at them. Edwards is not a candidate, and really, the story is irrelevant, except to those who want to use this to smear Obama, since they are pretty much grasping at straws.

Edwards was my second choice. I don't regret supporting him, and hope he continues in public service. Too many good people like Gary Hart and Bill Clinton are either ruined, or are remembered for some stupid sex scandal instead of their accomplishments. I wish this country would grow up and get out of the Sophmoric, Junior High mentality towards sex, with all the banality, salaciousness and cruelty.

i'm absolutely furious/disgusted with her husband because he would have put our party in jeopardy had he gotten the nomination.

i feel very bad for elizabeth. i think she is a wonderful person. (i just think her husband is a fucking asshole! he screwed around on her and he was screwing around with our chances for the white house. what a jerk)

ummm...

no. i am not.

john conducted himself in the smallest way a man could ever fucking conduct himself.

did i say "man?"

sorry. i misspoke. john edwards is not a "man." john edwards is about as far away from a "man" as a person could ever get.

if your are proud of "that", then that just speaks volumes about who you are.



i spit on john edwards. and i spit on anyone that would defend him...

You know he cheated on Joan and Chappaquiddick caused her to miscarry from stress? Yet isn't he still the "great liberal lion" What about JFK? Do you spit on him as well? he gave Jackie a venereal disease! These are not things to be praised but they do not negate the good efforts of an entire career. This is "one " mistake in a long marriage. Elizabeth forgives him. I guess that is all he needs.It is sad to be that judgemental about a human weakness.

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*ptuuh*

i spit on any "boy" that is unfaithful to his wife...

Do you also spit on Martin Luther King?

I forgive people the foibles they have in their personal lives.

Let's face even the greatest people are not perfect, and you are not God - but you are judgmental.

and never, ask me to forgive that.

ok?

No? Elizabeth?? ... No?...

"and never, ask me to forgive that."

Then who really gives a fuck who or what *you* forgive?

Seriously.... some people are just too full of themselves and/or suffer from delusions of grandeur....

Forcing your sexual morality down other peoples throats... sounds a bit Fundie to me, as bedroom trysts are no one's business other than those directly involved. Unless you'd like to see ant-adultery legislation getting passed.

(Yes-- I'm sure you have a lot of spit.)

I pray to god they never go through what either Edwards has had to endure. And think Elizabeth has asked folks NOT to do this!

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And you post on a PUMA site, as recently as a few hours ago.

I post on many sites. I also post on a low carb site. Perhaps you read those as well? Also a pet loss site and an astrology site.

I'm afraid I don't see the precise relevance of PUMA support or membership in this thread... :shrug:

The OP brought up things like Jeremiah Wright and other Obama-bashing bullshit in a few of her responses.

I don't think I would classify it quite so high.

I actually laughed out loud at some of his "answers" John proved himself to be everything I always thought he was in that interview tonight.

And honorable doesn't come close.

and I find your "laughing" at anyone's pain disgusting. You are the one that is pathetic.Perhaps you could read and learn some empathy.
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by elizabethedwards
Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 04:40:51 PM PDT

Our family has been through a lot. Some caused by nature, some caused by human weakness, and some – most recently – caused by the desire for sensationalism and profit without any regard for the human consequences. None of these has been easy. But we have stood with one another through them all. Although John believes he should stand alone and take the consequences of his action now, when the door closes behind him, he has his family waiting for him.

John made a terrible mistake in 2006. The fact that it is a mistake that many others have made before him did not make it any easier for me to hear when he told me what he had done. But he did tell me. And we began a long and painful process in 2006, a process oddly made somewhat easier with my diagnosis in March of 2007. This was our private matter, and I frankly wanted it to be private because as painful as it was I did not want to have to play it out on a public stage as well. Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication, because of a picture falsely suggesting that John was spending time with a child it wrongly alleged he had fathered outside our marriage, our private matter could no longer be wholly private.

The pain of the long journey since 2006 was about to be renewed.

John has spoken in a long on-camera interview I hope you watch. Admitting one’s mistakes is a hard thing for anyone to do, and I am proud of the courage John showed by his honesty in the face of shame. The toll on our family of news helicopters over our house and reporters in our driveway is yet unknown. But now the truth is out, and the repair work that began in 2006 will continue. I ask that the public, who expressed concern about the harm John’s conduct has done to us, think also about the real harm that the present voyeurism does and give me and my family the privacy we need at this time.

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If they had not put on the farce of the campaign I would feel for them. The fact that they both were aware of it in 2006 and ran anyway disgusts me. They knowingly put the fate of our nation at risk in a grab for power.

You can wag your finger at me all you want.

It most be awful not to be able to see beauty in the writing of Elizabeth Edwards. Her words will live on long after all your tripe has disappeared. Elizabeth is the best tyhing to have come out of American politcs in more than a generation. She has no equal and is honest to the core.
I am so sorry that you can't appreciate her.

She knowingly joined into a plan that was defrauding the American public in order to win a campaign for the presidency. Betting that they could get away with it. At the risk of four more years of republicans laying waste to our country.

No fuckin excuse for that.

Some do not have sufficient imagination to conceive how this pathetic little episode of long ago is being used. It amazes me when some folks just never ask any questions, and without questions they never get any answers, particularly those they may not like. they should try asking "Why" now and then. It is a "thinking exercise".

The fraud on the American public wasn't perpetrated by the Edwards. Newsflash. We do not have the right to know their most private business. The Edwards never put us at risk for anything. Blah Blah blah. Keep snuggled up in that banky.

Ok :crazy:

If he became the nominee, this would have come out, and it would have cost us the election.

Don't give me your usual empty bullshit answers. I know your idol has now been desecrated, but if Edwards was the nominee and this came out in the GE, he would be toast.

It's not about a "personal matter." It goes directly to his character and trustworthiness, and many voters would hold it against him.

And there has been no idol desecration for me. I never had an idol and as far as both Edwards are concerned I still admire them both. Many more current "idols" display far less "character and trustworthiness" than simply having an affair and privately dealing with it, yet they are never called on it. It is not in the interest of those that really call the shots that they be held to account.

The very fact that Elizabeth Edwards stood by John's side and still thought his campaign was worth pursuing and continued to support John even after this incident speaks volumes to me and her opinion is worth more to me than any stupid post on an anonymous bulletin board.

I think we live in a very sad nation that places value on trivia over substance but the dumbing down of our educational system was all part of the plan and it continues today as we continue to eat up tabloid journalism and never look beneath the surface for the real story.

I bet you complain about the "OBots" to them today, too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3761127&mesg_id=3761166

and as I say words from such are nothing compared to the words of a real American hero Elizabeth Edwards.

And not a name to be taken literally. Of course, the fact that you see everything at face value probably explains your hero worship in the first place.

I can't understand how she was able to participate in this? She knew but did nothing. Had they told the truth when he announced, it would have been nothing. But they were foolish enough to ask us to trust them with this waiting to blow up in the background. The presidency and the supreme court are at stake. How could they be so callous, so egotistical? I adored both the Edwards's- as a southerner I identified with them. How could they play games like this?

Its sad but at 54 years of age I still can be disillusioned. I should have learned about trusting any of them long ago.

found a way to blame Obama for this based on???

Let me borrow your words

You sure aren't a class act. You make me sick. Actually you are a really sad person
It most be awful not to be able to see beauty in Obama. His words will live on long after all your tripe has disappeared. Obama is the best thing to have come out of American politcs in more than a generation. He has no equal and is honest to the core.
I am so sorry that you can't appreciate him.

I like Elizabeth a lot...she would not like your ant-Obama hype either. You think she wants McCain to shape the future of this country for her children?

Elizabeth is the best tyhing to have come out of American politcs in more than a generation. She has no equal and is honest to the core.

:rofl:

Gawd I almost puked at that opening line.

He wasn't in love with her and Elizabeth was in remission.

and then "I don't know who that baby is."

I can understand where he was coming from in regard to feeling invincible and out of control, not even knowing it. I think many people go through stages in their marriages, aging - the fear of losing your youth and sexuality, aka midlife crisis.

If he had to do it over again, I would have advised him NOT to go on national TV and if he insisted, do not, do not throw your girlfriend who claimed her love for you under the bus with the baby.

If only Obama was a stray cat. Then you'd love him.



As long as he wasn't a black cat, I suppose.


I supported John, too, but I do not defend any of this. He's an SOB who lied to and deceived his wife, his family, and his supporters. You attack Obama for everything he does. Fraud.

and his is wise wonderful and the best person on earth( besides my hubby )as far as I am concerned.We have had him for many years and love him dearly!

I'm disappointed in John. I don't think he's fully come clean yet, and feel he has to do that.

I don't feel Elizabeth had much of a choice in this, from start to finish, and I feel he has not yet been entirely candid with her. So color me supportive of Elizabeth and disappointed in John.

I said I was proud of how he handled himself today, not proud of how he handled himself before, and that it isn't an either/or thing.

The point I wanted to make was that I wouldn't make some knee-jerk rejection of someone for doing something wrong. However, I haven't even watched the interview, and in commenting like that it makes it sound like I have.

So... I got nothing. I haven't watched the interview yet, maybe I can find it online when I get home from work.

:rofl:

the TWO of them talked about it and DECIDED to deceive us all.
This has nothing to do with infidelity.
THEY SCREWED US, PERIOD!

ANY good either of them once pretended to stand for is permanently and irrevocably erased.

I'm not sure I want to know what it is, though.

Maybe Carlin was right about politicians. Or at least politicians like JE.

They forced him out of the primaries, and were not satisfied with that, so they forced him to come forward and admit to fucking some woman his campaign hired.

How dare they!!1!1!

:grr:

I'm all for Democratic politicians...those that aren't selfish bastards inclined to sociopathy. Bill Clinton and John Edwards are cut of the same cloth...smooth talking, skilled sociopaths who know the lingo and techniques to get impressionable rubes such as yourself to forgive them. Open your eyes.

J