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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:10 AM
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I'm gonna say it: Fuck YOU John Edwards (but not for why you probably think...)
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 02:13 AM by file83
:wtf:
What in the HELL were you thinking by running for President back in 2007?

I don't care what you do in your personal life, but when you do something stupid and create a dark secret in 2006, you don't then RUN FOR PRESIDENT in 2007!!!!!

How god-damned selfish could you possibly be? Do you even realize how fucked the Democrats would be right now had you won the Primaries?

Dude, people like you never cease to amaze me.

I thought you were smarter than that, but I realize now that the only thing you had to offer was an ego.

So now that the cat is out of the bag and I realize you were ready to fuck the Democratic Party over, all I can do in response is say, fuck you.

:rant:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:14 AM
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1. I could only think of one possible positive thought
Scenario: Perhaps he and Elizabeth knew he would have to drop out but decided to campaign anyway in order to have his populist issues heard, and drive the primary to the left as much as possible.

It's possible.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:28 AM
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6. Perhaps, perhaps.
And I guess I could go with that benefit of the doubt since we know that Elizabeth already knew John's secret in 2006. Still though, it harms the Party no matter what.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:16 AM
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2. He came no closer to the nomination than you or I did.
So why bother to get exercised about it? This is between him and his family. The rest of us aren't involved and ultimately had nothing at stake even if we supported him at some point.

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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:25 AM
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4. ...
You completely didn't read my post, missed the point, and are being disingenuous.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:34 AM
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10. No, I did read it, and I don't mean to be entirely flippant
but he didn't get anywhere near the nomination. He barely attained also-ran status, so no harm done on that score.

As to the man himself, hell yes, he's got a nerve. He owes his incredible wife a huge apology, but apparently he made that apology 2 years ago. I expect nothing more from him other than his enthusiastic support of Obama.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 03:15 AM
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15. He made a great contribution to the primary discourse.
He forced Obama and Hillary to take more liberal stands on issues like the environment, healthcare, the war in Iraq and many other things. He was the best debater of the lot. He was the first to propose a plan to invest large sums in alternative energy. He could have been a very strong candidate.

Kucinich also had great, innovative ideas, but only Edwards could combine creative problem solving with great presentation.

Edwards is a very brilliant man.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:24 AM
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3. He's arrogant and presumptuous like Obama and Clinton and all other presidential candidates? nt
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:27 AM
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5. Exactly!
And he used his family in the campaign (including sympathy for his wife). Cheating on his wife is her problem but pretending he was a family guy while running was cheating on all of us too. (Especially in light of what he said about Clinton's cheating - Damn, what a hypocrite)
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:39 AM
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13. Thank god someone agrees with my point...
I realize I was a little rude about it, but it's nice to know I'm not the only one who thought about this and realized the danger he put our party in, regardless of the effect it had on his family (which is none of our business).
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:28 AM
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7. Bill Clinton did it and wound up winning the presidency
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 02:29 AM by avaistheone1
And Bill Clinton turned out to be a half decent president.
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evilkumquat Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:32 AM
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8. It's Not About Being a "Decent President"...
Edwards would have gift-wrapped the Congressional majority had he won the Presidency and this came out after the fact.

Just because the GOP can get away with their scandals that involve little boys and bathroom stalls doesn't mean the Moronic Majority in this country is smart enough to forgive a Democrat who keeps his trysts among adults.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:33 AM
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9. Don't you DARE go there...!!!
Bill Clinton isn't "uncomfortable around gay people"
Bill Clinton NEVER berated anybody else about being less than a perfect husband, etc. like THIS ASSHOLE HYPOCRITE DID!!!
Bill Clinton is not against EQUAL rights for GAY PEOPLE like this ASSHOLE HYPOCRIT IS!!!

edwards is a fucking HYPOCRITICAL LYING HOLIER THAN THOU BASTARD...!!!

I knew there was something I didn't like about him during the primaries, now I KNOW I was justified in my suspicions...!!!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:37 AM
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11. Bill Clinton signed DOMA.
Not that I'm defending Edwards, I said all along he struck me as sleazy.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:37 AM
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12. Yeah, and being impeached for lying about it did the Democrats pretty well in 2000
You do have a brain, right?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 03:04 AM
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14. He was there to keep Kucinich in check by taking some of the "populist" voters.
In a race where looks and personality count, rather than true colors, personal history and track record, we were given a representative from almost every group...southern white, black intellectual, strong female, etc. That works as well as co-opting existing groups formed around hot button issues like abortion, which was the GOP tactic.
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