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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:49 AM
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I hate the Olympics.
I used to actually enjoy it, but over the years it just seems like a Miss America pageant on steroids.

The young and athletic are admired and worshipped like demi gods, given the opportunity to get rich, exploited, treated like so much cattle at an auction, and the Olympics always give the host nation a chance to get rich and show off and make political points.

Young athletes see who can swim, jump, or run the fastest, who cares? I don't.

If you enjoy it, good for you, I don't want to spoil your pleasure, but I'll pass thanks.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:50 AM
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1. You can always
change the channel.

peace
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:52 AM
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2. No need.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:56 AM
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5. Consider taking your TV out to the back yard
and shooting it like a friend of mine once did when his kid was watching too much crap.

:hi:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:57 AM
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6. No can do. I like cartoons too much.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:54 AM
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3. Competition by and for the rich.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:17 AM
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8. Bet you can't back that up.
What makes you think these athletes are rich? They come from all sorts of backgrounds. Most of them aren't professional athletes.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:17 AM
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39. Oh so then who pays for their travel, workout time 24/7, their rich sponsors that's who.
by and for the rich.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:28 AM
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11. Bullshit
Pure bullshit.

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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:54 AM
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4. I suppose so, but I still like them.
I think its remarkable what a body can do... Now, I don't know how many are hopped up on the juice, but they supposedly have drug testing that tries to catch that sort of thing. There is a negative of the whole Nationalistic pride and flag parading and all that... but on another level, here is a chance to do something that someone dedicates their mind and body to.. it is just another way humans can set a goal and achieve if they try. AND I prefer to see it as that.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:09 AM
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7. It's Been Abused
We get TOO much Olympics now. I enjoyed the coverage when it was focused on the uniqueness of the event, not the professionalism of it. The opening up to mass commercialization and allowing professionals to compete turned it from a meeting of cultures to one of economic interests...and with it came the overkill that I think has spoiled the games unique character.

For many countries, this is the rare chance for them to share a limelight with the big and powerful...where a long distance runner from Eritrea could bring a little pride to his country and culture and expose a myopic American culture and media to a world outside our borders. It was also about people chasing dreams...years of hard work and dedication that builds to this moment and the universal story of triumph and failure that plays out during these games.

The over-the-top publicity and "importance" of the games...the politics is what these few moments are wrapped around in and it's up to the individual as to if they can separate the layers or not. I'll watch some of the coverage, but more out of curiosity than any sense of jingoism or being impressed with the commercialism. Most times, I'll turn down the sound so I don't have to listen to the anal-ists and just try to experience what is going on without someone telling me what they think I should.

The summer is still here...so is time to prepare and recharge for the big push upcoming. Go out and enjoy a nice walk or book...a diversion now from the non-stop corporate media political circus may be a good thing...help some of us get focused for what will be a mud-fight to the bitter end.

Cheers...
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:24 AM
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9. Me, too. I was prepared to do without MSRNC for 2 weeks, but now GD is fair game. n/t
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:26 AM
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10. Do like me and completely boycott it.
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miyazaki Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:38 AM
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13. why don't you really boycott it
and relieve yourself of all your chinese possessions now and forever more?
C'mon, take a real stand.
You and the boycott crowd certainly are amusing. So please keep it up.
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:29 AM
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12. I used to look forward to them also
Now, I have no interest at all. I used to love to watch the track and field events. I remember going to NCAA track and field events with my ex. What the Chinese government is doing, just adds to my lack of enthusiasm.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:38 AM
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14. Tune Out!
I'm boycotting the 'Games' and their corporate sponsors.

The modern Olympics has become increasingly just another high tech, consumer-driven exercise in greed, nationalism, and corporatism.

In the U.S., of course, the Olympics is another manifestation of 'bread and circuses' -- keeping the masses distracted from how their corrupt and conniving politicians and corporate masters are stealing them blind.

GE (NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, etc.) has already made a billion dollars selling advertising. I'm sure that if you were to watch the 'Games' on all of the GE channels, the pushing of consumer products (well over half of which you don't need anyway) will comprise forty percent of what you would view.

I'd also point out that the idea of the Olympics being a venue where people of all different nationalities could gather to athletically compete as individuals, demonstrating the common humanity of us all -- well, that ideal has been abused almost since the event was revived in 1896. It is very much about the 'medal count' -- repeat "U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!" over and over again mindlessly.

Personally, I'm also uncomfortable with the seemingly perverse way in which very, very young people are often trained in 'Brave New World' programs for the purpose of competing for their 'homeland', especially the big counties.

Finally, there is a good essay by Naomi Klein that address some of the particularly egregious aspects of the Beijing extravaganza.
The Olympics: Unveiling Police State 2.0 - Naomi Klein/Huffington Post/CommonDreams.org
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:13 AM
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21. Thanks for the link to the Naomi Klein article

The Olympics: Unveiling Police State 2.0
by Naomi Klein

SNIP

Like it or not, you are about to be awed by China’s sheer awesomeness.

The games have been billed as China’s “coming out party” to the world. They are far more significant than that. These Olympics are the coming out party for a disturbingly efficient way of organizing society, one that China has perfected over the past three decades, and is finally ready to show off. It is a potent hybrid of the most powerful political tools of authoritarianism communism — central planning, merciless repression, constant surveillance — harnessed to advance the goals of global capitalism. Some call it “authoritarian capitalism,” others “market Stalinism,” personally I prefer “McCommunism.”

The Beijing Olympics are themselves the perfect expression of this hybrid system. Through extraordinary feats of authoritarian governing, the Chinese state has built stunning new stadiums, highways and railways — all in record time. It has razed whole neighborhoods, lined the streets with trees and flowers and, thanks to an “anti-spitting” campaign, cleaned the sidewalks of saliva. The Communist Party of China even tried to turn the muddy skies blue by ordering heavy industry to cease production for a month — a sort of government-mandated general strike.

As for those Chinese citizens who might go off-message during the games — Tibetan activists, human right campaigners, malcontent bloggers — hundreds have been thrown in jail in recent months. Anyone still harboring protest plans will no doubt be caught on one of Beijing’s 300,000 surveillance cameras and promptly nabbed by a security officer; there are reportedly 100,000 of them on Olympics duty.

The goal of all this central planning and spying is not to celebrate the glories of Communism, regardless of what China’s governing party calls itself. It is to create the ultimate consumer cocoon for Visa cards, Adidas sneakers, China Mobile cell phones, McDonald’s happy meals, Tsingtao beer, and UPS delivery — to name just a few of the official Olympic sponsors. But the hottest new market of all is the surveillance itself. Unlike the police states of Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union, China has built a Police State 2.0, an entirely for-profit affair that is the latest frontier for the global Disaster Capitalism Complex.

Chinese corporations financed by U.S. hedge funds, as well as some of American’s most powerful corporations — Cisco, General Electric, Honeywell, Google — have been working hand in glove with the Chinese government to make this moment possible: networking the closed circuit cameras that peer from every other lamp pole, building the “Great Firewall” that allows for remote internet monitoring, and designing those self-censoring search engines.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/07/10860/
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:39 AM
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15. what?! you arent enjoying the fascist grande parade !?
shoot, they pulled all the hollywood stops on this one buddy.

just imagine if the nazi's were still around !
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:48 AM
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16. Me too. I won't be watching.
It's farce; I admire the athletes for what they do, but I can't stand the political machinations.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 10:05 AM
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17. it's not that I hate the Olympics . . . I just have no interest . . .
and haven't since they started allowing professionals to "compete" and essentially turned the whole enterprise into one huge corporate advertising venue . . .

I do have one tiny bit of interest, I suppose . . . and that it my hope that the NBA millionaires on the "Redeem Team" get their butts beat by someone or other -- preferably a team with no pro players at all . . . but Lithuania, Germany, or even China would do just fine, thank you very much . . .
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 10:11 AM
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18. It's too political and it's too commercial
I think the biggest obscenity is the corporate millions made of what is supposed to be "Amateur" athletes. Sure some of these athletes reap the benefits of endorsements but overall it's a drop in the bucket of the money that changes hands before and during.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:32 AM
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31. Read Dave Zirin's Welcome to the Terrordome: The Pain, Politics and Promise of Sports
Actually, both of his books talk about the corruption of the Olympic games. What's My Name, Fool? Sports and Resistance in the United States is the title of his other book. It is amazing what every country has done to it's citizens in the name of these games.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:53 AM
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34. NBC paid $900,000,000 for the rights to broadcast.
The amateur exploits have been turned into professional fundraisers for profit centers of corporations.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 10:16 AM
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19. Stopped watching it decades ago.

Total farce.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 10:25 AM
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20. The Olympics is so yesterday.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:20 AM
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22. I used to love them; I was about 11 when I watched the horror in Munich.
Now it's all about sponsors and politics and money. I can't even watch anymore; I watched the Puppy Games last night with my son and we had a blast!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:21 AM
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23. I don't like them either
and won't be watching them at all this year.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:26 AM
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24. Well, you missed one of the best openings ever.

The artistry was amazing. It inspire me.
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El Pinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:28 AM
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25. How sad for you.
I enjoy seeing the young, beautiful athletes pushing themselves to achieve incredible physical feats.

I'm not glued to the set through the whole thing, but I enjoyed the stunning opening ceremony, and I like the events.

I don't see the "cattle" aspect, and don't have a problem that the medalists might actually make a few bucks off of their YEARS OF GRUELING TRAINING.

China has a poor human rights record, sure, but then so does the US. Spain and Korea are hardly spotless either.

But this is supposed to be about something above and beyond politics.

If you don't like it, don't watch it, but what good comes of ragging on the entire concept?
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:28 AM
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26. Me too and sucking up to China was the last straw.
I won't waste one minute watching it.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:46 AM
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27. I love the Olympics and have since I watched the Atlanta games when I was 10
I love the great variety of events with people from all over the world competing in them. When I was 14 and watching the Sydney games I got crushes on many of the women gymnasts! :rofl:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 07:21 AM
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28. xxxxxxxxxxx
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 07:45 AM
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29. To me, it's a big waste of time.
They don't even make special beer commercials for it, like with the Super Bowl. How long can you watch people you never heard of swimming?

I'm not a sports fan - I couldn't possibly care less about sports. So that might be part of it. Do devout TV-watching sports fans like the Olympics?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:16 AM
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30. I hate it, too and I especially hate this one.
Here you've got people living in tents in another part of China because their villages have been flattened by an earthquake, yet tons of money is wasted on fucking swimming pools and stadiums.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:47 AM
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32. wah wah waaaaa
"Look Mom, I can sit on the couch and do nothing and yet the school kids who pass gym class are worshipped as hero's.

It not fair! Not fair I tell you!"
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:50 AM
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33. lol you bet me to it!

i was about to say 'waa'


of all the things to get faux outraged about, the olympics ranks pretty low.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:17 AM
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36. Can sour grapes be repressed childhood memories?
Only time will tell.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:54 AM
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35. I have not bothered to watch, because my mayor is there
planning the same spectacle for Chicago in 2016, when he should be "home" dealing with funding for our schools, mass transit, and public safety.:mad:
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:40 AM
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37. A lot like the annual Super Bore 'cept international in scope.
$$$$, political propaganda; one giant, shiny object designed to mollify the masses.

Not even any of the traditional nudity to make it all palatable.... since the Judeo-Christians got control of it.... curse them.

It's unwatchable and unbearable. And unbare-able.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:03 AM
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38. Yeah, I used to love the Olympics
Most of my youth--shoot, even several years as an adult--I was a competitive athlete (definitely not at the Olympic standard) and I always admired those that competed in the games.

The corporatism began taking a lot of the thrill of watching it away for me, but I still watched some events. But this year has made me turn them off and tune them out. They actually had a wall street guy on cnn discussing how a select few of the athletes will cash in if they do well enough in their events. The entire conversation was about how the corporations invested billions hoping to see a big return. Blech.

The other thing that I can't get out of my mind is how bush* is using the games to soften his image. His photo op with the volley ball gals, sitting in the stands watching Phelps swim waving a little American flag. He's attaching his image to these athletes who the American people like and are pulling for, and imo, it is all quite contrived. The commentators keep talking about bush* as if they were reading from a script.

Yeah, stick a fork in me. This long time admirer of the Olympics and the athletes is done.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:56 AM
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40. I'm sick of the corporatism, and I'm sick of the authoritarianism.
Those of you who want to enable China's fascist regime, enjoy your Olympics. As for me, they can kiss my ass.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 12:07 PM
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41. I love the Parade of Nations
Especially seeing all the athletes from the little countries that we never hear about- the kids from Africa and Asia and the little islands- imagine what the experience is like for them- the travel, the Olympic Village, the food, the running water, the electricity, the opportunity to meet people from all over the world. You can see the glow on their beautiful young hopeful faces. I don't love the corporate tie-ins and the big money aspect of it for the "big name" Olympians (although they do have to train and work very hard to get there) but I like to look at it from the perspective of all those participants who will leave Beijing in two weeks and go back to small poor villages, to places like Eritrea and Gabon and think about the once in a lifetime experience they have had.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 01:00 PM
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42. I'm not crazy about sports but I LOVE the Olympics.
I admire all the athletes for pushing their bodies and themselves to their physical limit to try and be the best. I feel sorry for them that they get caught in the politics of it all which should be avoided at all costs because the Olympics should be about trying to bring the people of the world together rather than trying to tear us all apart.

Give me the Olympics any day over greedy ass sports like American football, basketball or baseball, where the majority of athletes are overpaid arrogant fools who often behave in shabby or shady ways. :puke:
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Ghost of Tom Joad Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 01:09 PM
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43. summer games are the worst
and being in China makes them unbearable.
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