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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:37 AM
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Thought Crimes Agenda-Government To Decide Whether Or Not-They Like The Way You Think
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 11:38 AM by kpete
The Department of Homeland Security is moving towards implementing a provision of the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 otherwise known as the thought crimes bill.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955

This is despite the fact that the legislation has not been signed into law. The House version of the bill HR 1955 was passed by a margin of 404-6 where as the Senate version of the bill S 1959 is still awaiting action. One of the bill’s provisions gives the Department of Homeland Security the authority to fund a University based Center of Excellence to study ways to thwart what the government believes are extremist belief systems and radical ideologies of individual Americans. In other words, if the government doesn’t like the way you think, they are going to have teams of social scientists and behavioral experts trying to figure out the best way to deal with you. As it turns out, the Department of Homeland Security is already funding a Center of Excellence to study thought criminals in the United States at the University of Maryland. http://www.start.umd.edu/ This shows that it doesn’t matter if S 1959 is defeated or not, as they are moving forward with this agenda with or without Congressional approval. In reality, Congress is nothing more than a staged circus to make people falsely believe that they actually have a say in what the government does. The Department of Homeland Security is funding research to setup an Orwellian system to deal with political dissenters under the guise of fighting terrorism and they care not if it is in accordance with what the people want. Another words, be prepared for the possibility of a future with re-education camps as a real life Ministry of Love system is implemented.

The following is taken from Security Products Online detailing the Department of Homeland Security’s funding of this Center of Excellence that will study thought crimes or as they like to call it the threat of homegrown terrorism and violent radicalization.

http://www.secprodonline.com/articles/66024/

A team of more than 50 social scientists, armed with new federal funding, will extend its research into radicalization and the formation of terrorist groups in the United States and abroad. The researchers will also study the effectiveness of counter-terror strategies, as well as efforts to build community resilience to attacks.

Now, let’s take a look at section 899D of HR 1955 and we’ll see that what’s proposed in the bill has for all intents and purposes already become a reality.

`SEC. 899D. CENTER OF EXCELLENCE FOR THE STUDY OF VIOLENT RADICALIZATION AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM IN THE UNITED STATES.

`(a) Establishment- The Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish or designate a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States (hereinafter referred to as `Center') following the merit-review processes and procedures and other limitations that have been previously established for selecting and supporting University Programs Centers of Excellence. The Center shall assist Federal, State, local and tribal homeland security officials through training, education, and research in preventing violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism in the United States. In carrying out this section, the Secretary may choose to either create a new Center designed exclusively for the purpose stated herein or identify and expand an existing Department of Homeland Security Center of Excellence so that a working group is exclusively designated within the existing Center of Excellence to achieve the purpose set forth in subsection (b).

`(b) Purpose- It shall be the purpose of the Center to study the social, criminal, political, psychological, and economic roots of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism in the United States and methods that can be utilized by Federal, State, local, and tribal homeland security officials to mitigate violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism.

`(c) Activities- In carrying out this section, the Center shall--

`(1) contribute to the establishment of training, written materials, information, analytical assistance and professional resources to aid in combating violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism;

`(2) utilize theories, methods and data from the social and behavioral sciences to better understand the origins, dynamics, and social and psychological aspects of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism;

`(3) conduct research on the motivational factors that lead to violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism; and

`(4) coordinate with other academic institutions studying the effects of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism where appropriate.

The Department of Homeland Security is providing roughly $12 Million over 3 years to fund this research. Among the planned research includes building a database of U.S. extremist crime, studying how social networks spread thought crime, tracking sympathy and support for terrorism in the United States among various communities, studying the phony European white Al-Qaeda threat and much more.

The government has no business funding research studying the political beliefs of people and determining who may or may not be a potential terrorist based upon a vague definition of homegrown terrorism and violent radicalization. In fact, the definitions of these terms as defined in HR 1955 and S 1959 are up to the interpretation of the government. This means that a homegrown terrorist could potentially be anybody the government doesn’t like. Not only is it unconstitutional, but it opens up the flood gates for a tyranny only theorized in novels like George Orwell’s 1984. The social scientists that are being funded in this program could potentially suggest the implementation of programs that could include the round up of people for re-education based upon any sort of criteria even if no real crime has been committed. Literally, the Department of Homeland Security is funding research to go after people who have political beliefs and ideologies that are contrary to the agenda of the establishment. Unfortunately for the American people, they are employing the services of some very smart people to do this. Who knows what these people will come up with but considering what they've already done, it won't be in the best interest of freedom.


more at:
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=11255
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 11:40 AM
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1. Thought I seen this a couple months back, but thanks for bring to the fore...
:kick:
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:37 PM
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4. I think you "saw" this a couple months ago. n/t
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:49 PM
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7. are you a member of this new thought crimes police force?
or merely a jack-booted grammar nazi?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:02 PM
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2. It refers to "violent radicalization" everywhere. No violent intent/plans/promotion = no problemo.
Right????
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:12 PM
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3. and always answer everyone of their questions with 'yes' or 'no' MASTER.
freedom for nothing.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:41 PM
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5. Oh no! Not the bill that would set up a study group to research whether
terrorists are using the Internet! Nothing's more unconstitutional than a study group to research whether terrorists are using the internet! Why, next thing you know, they'll be authorizing sub-subcommittees to issue non-binding recommendations regarding future subcommittees!
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:42 PM
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6. what about the governments thought crimes
Are these the new standard of the 21st fucked up new american century?
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