Mark Crispin Miller: "Will Rove & Co. Steal It For McCain?"

Via Email:

Friends, I'm back from my vacation, and keen to get this all-important story on the map.

The media--both mainstream and left/liberal--continues to ignore the revelations of
Stephen Spoonamore, although the man is (a) a lifelong Republican, (b) an erstwhile member
of Team McCain (he quit on finding out what BushCo had been doing to our elections), and
(c) a well-respected expert on computer crime. He has the goods to back up every word he's
said, and he is not afraid.

We neglect this story at our peril, because it is, in fact, THE ONLY WAY to keep BushCo
from stealing this election, too. THE ONLY WAY to stop another such disastrous rip-off is
to shine a bright light on the major authors of the fraud, and thereby send them scurrying
for cover (and ending up in prison, let us hope).

For the latest developments, go to www.rovecybergate.com, which is the go-to site at
Velvet Revolution. And also read, and forward, the email from Kyle Hence, below.

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Please act on this, in any way you can. To quote Tom Paine, whose thought now
matters more than ever, "the sun never shined on a cause of greater worth."

MCM


From Kyle Hence:

ePluribus Media Journal presents another in our series considering Mike Connell's work for the Karl Rove / Bush wing of the GOP.

ePluribus Media's Luaptifer writes: "Why is it important to rehash what Connell did in 2000 Florida and 2004 Ohio? Because those very same key elements for potential election theft are firmly in place within the McCain campaign for 2008."

The story's important because it establishes how extensively Connell was involved inside of the State of Florida IT network system while he was acting as an ultra-partisan outside of the State of Florida's firewall. With that history preceding our discovery of Connell inside the Secretary of State's Office, in Ohio during 2004, what's next?

Connell was in Florida in 2000, Ohio in 2004 and he'll be wherever McCain will be in 2008, as part of the campaign team.

If you have a Buzzflash account, please be sure to add your 'buzz' here!

ePluribus Media Journal: Connell, Rove and the GOP Boys, Positioned for McCain?

Connell, Rove, and the GOP Boys, Positioned for McCain?
Who is Roy Cales and What's his Connection to Mike Connell?

Here is a long interview that ABC News did with Stephen Spoonamore back in 2006--
and then never used.

Clearly, this guy has been speaking out authoritatively, and righteously, on the risks of
e-voting for quite some time.

MCM


Segment 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyEfovA404&feature=related

Segment 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTBLfgos5b8&feature=related

Segment 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzKbigGoMoo&feature=related

Segment 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vNvweInGFs&feature=related

Segment 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX8fRwsTpoQ&feature=related

Segment 6:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Kq4dxPwY8&feature=related

Segment 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsgY4_BB2lo&feature=related

Segment 8:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1sz-xBxf8&feature=related

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We need to mess with his data. I am going to lie to anybody that asks me who I plan to vote for and also to the exit poll after I vote. I will say McCain so they end up not sealing or flipping enough votes since no one in Congress seems to care about election fraud.

Duuuuh! Rove has made a career of stealing elections for crooks. Now he's employed by McLame.

All we seem to be able to do is stand here and watch it happen because the republicans have laws in place to prevent investigations or ballot voting.

See for example, the massive efforts to keep Nader off the ballots. Is that Democratic?

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as if they had no inkling what was going on? Clinton and McAuliffe and all those Dem election legal team minds who were supposed to be out front line of defense in 2000, 2002 and 2004, where were their priorities, especially after hearing in early 2001 ILLUSTRATED so many of the tactics the RNC and GOP officials employed to gain control of the election process at so many levels where the votes could be disallowed, purged and stolen?

The GOP started these maneuvers long before 2000 - where were OUR guys and their eyes and ears? Fer chrissakes, Clinton's people were at the DOJ and FBI and FEC and none of them caught wind of ANY of this as it was happening? Or was ignorance feigned to protect Hillary2008?

I think I'd better consult w/ my lawyer before I say anything......

:hi:

A couple of things to keep in mind. Elections are run on a state and local level...those who are in control of the state government (usually the Secretary of State) is the one who does the counting. In the 90's, the GOOP all but dominated state governments and, if you look back on the voter supression history, a lot of the new machines and software were ordered and installed by these people. Also, from 2001-2007 there were no Democrats on a national level who could contest things...the party was totally shut out of the legislative and executive. The fix was easy to do as Rove and his henchmen had a clear field.

Most Democrats didn't see what was going on until it was too late...and there was little they could do about it. Just imagine how things would be had the GOOP retained control of the House & Senate in '06. :shiver:

Since there are a majority of Democrats in control of state governments now, the problem has moved to voter supression...and predominately in red states (Indiana, Georgia, Florida) where it's now the objective not to tamper with the voting as much as keeping Democrats from being able to vote at all.

The Obama people say they are very aware and alert about what's going on and are working on making sure von Spakowsky and his goons aren't successful...plus gone are the Ken Blackwells in some very key states. It's not gonna be as easy for Rove to pull his crimes again...and, IMHO, the only way this works is for the election to be close. This one won't be.

was going on with the integrity of the elections and votecounts? He had no Dem party operatives, FBI or FEC employees with their ears to the ground? He had no legal experts examining the machines and the companies who owned these machines? You think he was DISINTERESTED?

Hard to believe since he should have had some clue how powerful BushInc had become and who exactly was in control of the electronic voting machines - being such a highly regarded political animal and all, eh?

It wasn't until the SCOTUS overstepped their authority to appoint junior and seal the steal in Florida that the Federal government ever got involved in the counting of votes in a national election. The only thing they had previously done was to certify the results with the vote of the Electoral College. Each state determines how the votes are counted, the machines used and so on.

We're seeing in this election what a toothless waste of tax dollars the FEC is. Also, remember that the Repugnicans controlled the House and Senate during most of these years and they set the rules and the oversight on the FEC...but they were too busy chasing Clinton's cock.

I don't disagree...the Clinton administration...especially in its last years...was marginalized and easily caved to political pressure to find/make friends. The BFEE just exploited the power vacuum their proxies helped create...set up long before the 2000 elections.

My point is that there has been some moves to fix the messes of both '00 and '04...paper ballot in some states and more Democrats in power to count the votes. That doesn't mean there won't be tampering...rarely is an election conducted where there aren't "irregularities"...but to be able to steal an election, the results have to be close and I honestly don't see that happening this go-round.

the outcome of national elections, you really want to pretend that Clinton had no interest in their integrity or the integrity of the owners of the companies who were widely KNOWN to be RW activists? Clinton and his handpicked loyalists who led the Democratic party from 1993 through to 2005 chose to not make voting integrity a priority, even after 2000s VERY PUBLIC and VERY NATIONAL problems.

The most 'savvy' political crew never saw any indications to what BushInc was doing in conjunction with the owners of the voting machine companies, eh?

The most inept and destructive DNC chair ever. He was too busy worrying about his own databases and big money donors to give a shit about what was going on in the states...and why Democrats not just lost the machines, but a lot of elections as well. Even in 2000, when it became a problem, what did McAuliffe do? Go to the same losing playbook...and, yes, ignoring what the BFEE was up to. Now we can debate if this was wonton or ignorance, but I don't dispute your contention about how a lot of this happened under the DNC and Clinton's nose.

However, and thank-goodness, this isn't 2004...McAulliffe is gone, so is the remnants of the Clinton "legacy"...and I have a lot more confidence in what Dr. Dean has and is doing in making sure votes count than in the past. If the machines were so badly rigged, it would have kept the House and Senate in GOOP hands in '06...it didn't.

Cheers...

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at a meeting with two representatives. They are however working on lawsuits about voter rolls being expunged and intimidation tactics at the polls. I guess that is easier to attack with lawyers.

Who has information about what is being done?

websites.

"And there is something else that you can do to help. The lawyers in this case want to
depose Karl Rove, his longtime IT guy Mike Connell, Bob Ney, Jack Abramoff,
"Thor" Hearne and all the other perpetrators of this decade's numerous electoral crimes.
Because this is a civil case, they cannot weasel out of it (and some of them--like
Connell, whose family Rove has threatened--want to be deposed)."

But I don't think he will succeed. Things have only gotten worse since his "math" didn't add up in 2006, and he simply hasn't the resources he had earlier.

I signed up here, on DU, in front of the 2004 theft when I just knew that if Bush 'won again', either we deserved what we as Americans chose or that there was something really wrong in Denmark.

Several of us have been chasing what's wrong since that theft and, you have the sense as I do, it ain't in Denmark.

I've been working with the folks of ePluribus Media since we found Connell buried inside of the Ohio SOS machinery as Blackwell's collaborator. And I've been digging backwards with those folks to find out where else he'd been.

The links posted from Mark Crispin Miller's email, above, show you where we've found prints of his embeds in the past.

Florida, what a surprise huh?!

There's still much more of the story to be told but it's really important that people understand this part of it.

So if you can please help spread the word, I'd really appreciate it. The folks of ePluribus Media and the wider collaboration that's helped us make headway in getting the story read will appreciate it.

But most of all, we cannot afford another Bush term!!

And according who we've found hidden inside the campaign, McCain's campaign is another Bush campaign, the same people who helped destroy his 2000 run. If McCain's that far gone, you think he'd kick 'em off the team after an 'electoral win'?

The coming storm would be the one that makes it small enough to wrap their hands around its neck so they can strangle it in the bathtub...As they strip the carcass.

PS. The Ohio Attorneys have been pushing this issue a long time and the battle is going to be won by resources, those of substantially pro bono efforts against the biggest corporate effort money can buy. They'll need lots of help, go to http://www.rovecybergate.com

Thanks for your attention to the issues, this election is most critical.

mix in with that the usual proprietary software to complete the theft and you have a repeat of 2000 AND 2004...I have not seen the dems do anything substantial to stop this...watch what happens in New Mexico (just to name one among several).

the same sorts of IP-shifting behavior in New Mexico in the last couple of cycles that netcraft and then we verified for Ohio's SOS reporting system.

However, at least one ePer had thought they remembered such a thing.

Interestingly enough, we HAVE seen the IP-jump occurring in Florida, I believe it was sometime after the 2004 election date, 2005 or 2006 perhaps.

Who cares about McCain? They need to first and foremost do everything in their power to make sure they aren't prosecuted.

Keeping Obama out of the White House is worth many loads of gold bars paid to defense lawyers.

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they still own the voting machines. I am not optimistic about the next election.

Bill

KICK

I just as fully expect that nobody will do anything about it.

Get ready for President McCain.

:kick:

recommended.

If someone doesn't do something bold, I'm really worried that we will have President McCain to live with for the next 4 - or 8 years. If America survives for that long.

The polls don't contact cell phone users (read younger, more Democratic voters). Anyway, why should corporations tell the truth when that is not in their best interests?

Bill

K&R

I don't think I've ever felt so good about spending $10.

Ohio official sues e-voting vendor for dropped votes
By Grant Gross , IDG News Service , 08/08/2008

Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner has filed a lawsuit against an electronic-voting machine vendor, saying the vendor should pay damages for dropped votes in the state's March primary election.

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Butler County officials discovered the dropped votes in post-election checks. That set off a statewide investigation, which found dropped votes in 11 other counties, according to information from Brunner's office. Butler County officials sent letters to Premier on April 4 and 9, seeking an explanation for the dropped votes, and on May 16, Premier issued a report, suggesting human error or conflicts with antivirus software were to blame.

Brunner and Butler County officials have suggested that May report and a follow-up issued by Premier lacked evidence that antivirus software caused the problems. A Premier report issued on May 29 suggested counties disable antivirus software on vote-tabulation servers, but the servers were certified in Ohio with the antivirus software installed, Brunner said.

In December, Brunner's office issued a report questioning the security of touch-screen e-voting machines like those sold by Premier. Machines from Premier and two other vendors had "critical security failures," the report said.

The report recommended Ohio move away from touch-screen machines.

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http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/080808-ohio-official-sues-e-voting-vendor.html?hpg1=bn

HMMH...I WONDER WHICH VOTES WERE DROPPED?

election cycle. Let the democrat be the whipping boy for all the shit they have done. BO is the perfect scapegoat. His message is about bringing the country together. Do you honestly think the criminals are going to be brought to justice? My heart says yes, my head say they are getting away scott free.

You can bet your life if Obama had the marital history of McCain it would be the top story in the media today. Yet not a single Dem Pundit ever talks about McCain's admitted numerous affairs. Even while the irrelevant affair of Edwards is actually being used against Obama. In any kind of hardball politics any real Dem pundit would take this golden opportunity to remind people of McCain's true character. Yet they don't. And that is why we keep on losing.

I'm still sore from having my ballot shredded in Florida in 2000. One of these days, Karma is bound to catch up with those bastids. I'm tired of waiting and hope to help it along as much as I can. Sometimes, even Karma needs a boot in the arse.

:kick: K & R

Are we letting them steal another one? Apparently so...

:kick:

I'm a computer guy and I know and work with people like Spoonamore. He's the kind of brainiac engineer who can't stand things that don't work the way they're supposed to.

He lays out exactly why computers should never be used for voting, and he says it in a way any programmer would intuitively understand.

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They are working on it right now.... PNAC lives.

that way they can try to blame the high price of energy and the current housing and economic problems on him come four years down the road in order to bring back another 8+ years of republicans in the whitehouse.
Yeah I know its kinda tin foil hat but still you gotta wonder why pick mccain, huckabee and others were far closer to core republican voters mindset so mccain winning was odd to say the least and i doubt its because he is more moderate, thats never concerned them before.

why do i get the feeling this is going to drop like so many rocks in a bag...?

God i HOPE not.

K and R if I could! Thank HS!