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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:42 PM Original message |
Nuclear energy development- Yeah or nay? |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Assuming we aren't going back to the dark ages |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Research, yes, Development, not yet |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
68. For starters, cold fusion is largely a myth. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Recycling is good - but Cold Fusion is not a myth |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. I live near a nuke plant. |
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. My brother is arguing that |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. In the end the waste is the BIG problem. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. it seems to be working in france. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. France is having concerns about it's waste disposal. They are running out |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. i'm not advocating it. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. You need to start pressuring your politicians, municipal, state and federal |
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. And is it true that they are shipping the waste to Russia? n/t |
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ben_meyers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. We could always go back to Whale oil and cutting trees |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. i'm in arizona too. |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years. That's not great. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. The earth won't survive another 1,000 years without CO2-free energy |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. If you were truly worried about radiation... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Coal plants are a bad idea too and they should be replaced with alternative energy |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Source |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. I am concerned with all pollution. This thread asks about nuclear |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. You have to ask yourself though |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. yeah. Until we get fusion. |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's the only way to keep up with energy demand. There are no good |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
13. Nay |
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ben_meyers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Did you notice where Palo Verde is? n/t |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Active cooling is only needed for a year or 2 and there is plenty of uranium in the U.S. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. The idea of yucca Mountain is to keep it away from water |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. Yeah. Right now. nt |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
18. Underground |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. How long do you think you can do this before you run out of places to do this? |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. There are millions of sites like the one described...and with current technology |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. And what is the population of the world? |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. I'm not going to tell the Japanese what they can do in the Ginza. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Illogical |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Oh and your thinking is three dimensional? |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I agree that nukes are not the best solution |
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Popol Vuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
26. Three Mile Island |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
28. Nay, too many problems and too much money placed into the same hands that have screwed us |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Best answer yet as to why we shouldn't place all our eggs in one basket. n/t |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
37. It strikes me as the best of many bad options. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. you can love your brother for other reasons.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
39. Nay. |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Uh huh. If you actually knew how to do it better, cheaper and faster |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. umm... |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. No "solar plant" will ever be useful for more than one or a few households. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. There's the SEGS operation providing power to half a million people. |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. They are not self-contained, they depend on burning natural gas for |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #45 |
63. Ignore it, it will go away. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
41. a qualified yea |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
42. I've been following what could be a "magic bullet" solution |
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Wow, pretty neat. I'll pass this on to the bro. |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
46. I'd rather spend the money on solar, wind, hydro and geothermal |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. If you can figure out a way to run an airplane with those, you can become very very rich. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I understand the Soviets tried to make a nuclear power airplane. |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. They had the first artificial satellite...the fact they couldn't make a nuke powered plane |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. What fact do you think is a fact? |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I agree the thread contains a lot of nonsense...one example of which is the |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. You can replace all the electricity produced by hydrocarbon |
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isentropic (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Bullshit. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. yep |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Makes more sense than nukes. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Have you done the math? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Well, like I was saying... |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. That's not what you said |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Well, assuming you're correct... |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Your math is off - it's not that bad |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Excuse me, I misinterpreted the question. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I only wanted you to get a feel for the scale of the problem |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. No, it's still small portion of Nevada. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. depends upon your definition of small I guess |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. 40,000 sq. miles you say. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I've talked you from 600 plants |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. What, exactly, are you trying to argue? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
79. See my post above. |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. I'll take the sailboat, but thanks anyway. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
49. no way |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
50. Ah, screw it - let's just go ahead! |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Once was enough for me |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-11-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
53. How far from his home should we build the cooling tower? n/t |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
62. Yes, and right the fuck now. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
64. No. I live too close to one, & they haven't figured out what to do with the waste yet. nt |
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Fla_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
65. Yeah |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
72. Nay. Welcome to Chernobyl. Enjoy your stay. |
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