And I was told I was crazy when I said I understood someone not wanting to put an Obama bumper

sticker on their car. We have seen at least one and now probably two attacks on people due to their being liberals or Democrats. I say probably because there is always a chance the shooting in Arkansas could be another matter, I'll wait for certainty before calling it that.

There are a lot of white people that are very upset at the thought of a black president and they are going to take action. This is going to be a rough fall. There will be more murders before this is over.

Of course many of the same people would be killing over the thought of a woman being president as well.


Everyone needs to be careful and watchful over the next few months. They are going to try to kill a lot more of us.

Scary.

I drove all the way up I-95 with no problem - at least none that I noticed.

Won't give in to terrorists.

Here in Maine I see more Obama stickers than McCain stickers, by quite a wide margin.

Two McCain stickers - one was in Baltimore and one was in Lynchburg, VA (I didn't go down 95 on the way back).

I see more mccain house signs than obama, and overwhelmingly more obama stickers than mccain.

Anyone who wants to take a shot can remember some of us are armed too...
I will not be intimidated.

Some of us are armed and trained to defend ourselves (I know its not popular here, but that's an issue that I do believe in and part company with the majority on DU). I've got an Obama sticker on the back window of my farm truck and its generated nothing but interested inquiries out and about town.

I won't give up my right to expression and speech. These Un-American bastards have perverted the meaning of patriotic in this country.

:thumbsup:

And even when I'm not armed, I can be quite a handful.

:P

:hi:

:party:

I love that concept!

except you don't have Wendy Davis, I would assume. :D

Like you I am not about to take mine off, can't wait for the VP to be named and the bumper stickers to come out so I can retire my very faded Kerry Edwards one which I swore not to remove until we had a new team in place. Soon, folks, soon.

:kick: :kick: :kick:

Hope all is well with you, BTW. ;-)

I have some very anti-Bush stuff on my car. I have 'your vote is stolen at the push of a button', Bush is a natural disaster' and 'If you are not outraged you are not paying attention'. and of course a DU sticker.

Don't you love that Texas Democrat one? I had to remove my old one; it had died an inglorious death due to our heat, I now have a lovely bright new one, right next to my Texans for Obama '08 and my Rick Noriega


What happens to me is this: on the freeway, horn honk behind me, car passes and a big thumbs up, or a wave. Notes left on my windshield telling me they LOVE my bumper stickers, total strangers in parking lots walking up to me to thank me for doing what they are not quite ready to do, or asking me where I got them because they want them.

Don't you think we are seeing an amazing # of Obama car ornaments around here? Certainly way more in proportion to McCain ones. I have seen 2 McCain bumper stickers in Fort Worth and hundreds of Obama, and Hillary ones. I see this as a very good sign.
:toast:

often and never with the enthusiasm I get from the people who LOVE to see a PROUD TX Democrat

I know plenty of Democrats and Liberals that could use them.

:shrug:

We have seen at least one and now probably two attacks on people due to their being liberals or Democrats. I say probably because there is always a chance the shooting in Arkansas could be another matter, I'll wait for certainty before calling it that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3790216&mesg_id=3790216


So even though I said probably, and I would wait before calling it something, that still is not good enough for you, and I am jumping to conclusions? What would have been good enough for you?

That implied to me your jumping to the conclusion people are gunning for Dems and Libs.

There has been one incident we know of...and this shooting may or may not have been a second one. If it was, two separate shootings does not a trend make.

that would have no problem killing people this political season. Their hatred more than fuels them to that point.

:eyes:

Millions of Americans killing Libs and Dems over politics? :rofl: Good one.

Too much Internets for you :rofl:

are actually pussies who wouldn't "do" what their KKK friends would...

Hell, even within the KKK they have to work them up for years to get somebody to do outright murder. All hat and no cattle

Liberals who live in liberal areas really have no clue how how frightening it can sometimes be to live as a liberal in an area populated with conservatives and freepers. Where I live, new introductions typically include the question "Where do you go to church?" within the first five sentences. I've had my anti-Radanovich signs BURNED in my front yard.

To their credit, most of my conservative neighbors and acquaintances take a "live and let live" attitude toward my politics (they may disagree with me, but they're friendly about it). But there is a frightening and aggressive minority who take any mention of liberalism as a personal affront that must be dealt with.

This is nothing new.

I cannot afford to have my car fixed, every time some idiot vandalizes it for my beliefs.

Didn't really feel the need to display my philosophies on the back of a car anyway.

Sorry to sound harsh, but there are those of us who just barely get by and any type of car repair is a major crisis.

something he would be dealing with too, if his vehicle were vandalized over anything, or otherwise damaged.

Not saying the other poster isn't justified, either, it is his choice to make whether to display or not to display.

Just saying it is always a two way street with any decision any one makes.

I just mean that some people have to realize that there are those of us to whom this is a serious concern. It doesn't mean we are cowards, we just support our candidate in other ways.

Sort of like how I don't have a support the troops magnet, but I (along with a couple other people) send care packages to soldiers who need them.

this. Just like you couldn't hear my voice saying what I wrote, I couldn't hear yours.

(a lot of our flame wars would be avoided if we were hearing vocal inflections, you know?)

;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

I'm not into bumper sticker wars.

I have no problem with the first choice. The second one not so much.

IF you don't express your political opinion because you are afraid of the radical reich's possible reaction: the terrorist residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave has won.

The trouble is that you never catch people who do this, so in essence, you are fighting ghosts. As I said in my original statement, it is a matter of economics. I am not wealthy and own just one car. If you would be willing to pay for the damages, then I will continue to place stickers on my car. If not, then get off my back and stop trying to insinuate that I am a coward. Once again, I don't think it necessary to wear my beliefs on my sleeve or display them on a bumper. I am quite comfortable being who I am without letting the world know.

I don't think you're impressing anyone with your "stuck on stupid" rhetoric.

beliefs. Yet you resort to calling me names. OK fuck this your no longer worth my time

But in a strange way I do appreciate the humor of it all. Some people never learn one of the definitions of insanity. Good luck with your bumper sticker fetish.

People who need to broadcast their personal messages via bumper stickers tend to be more trouble on the road than those who don't use any such bumper stickers. Why? Probably because they feel more of a compulsion let others know how they feel, which is an indicator of an egocentric personality. I recall reading about a recent study that determined people with bumper stickers are more likely to engage in road rage incidents than others.

and continued to be with stickers. i have found no correlation to driver without sticker as a kinder driver than those with stickers

we also like to put funny ones, or encouraging ones to offer a smile, evil intent that we have

some like them, some dont

i dont think we need to "label" a person cause they like stickers

me angry enough to put stuff on my car, blockwalk, stuff envelopes, wear politically provacative T-Shirts (and boy do I have a couple, which while no longer germaine to the electoral choice, still express many truths)

After this is over, and if the election turns the way we all hope it will, I may retire some of them. But I'm keeping the Texas Democrat one!!

oh yeah, Shrub made me pine for Richard Nixon and I am way old enough to remember that presidency, and stuff from before that too.

until kerry 2004. and i thought it that important. after kerry sticker i went to 11 stickers, all positive with openminded messages. right after 2006 election and dems taking majority the young male became aggressive while driving. i have little kids and took stickers off. adults that knew about my stickers wanted them back on. they didnt have courage to do, but they wanted me to have mine. i had one 50'ish man get out of car at intersection, suit and tie and run to my car to tell me how he LOVED my stickers.

i dont want on car either

i just feel too important in this area for voice to be heard adn people to see there are "white" people supporting a "black" person and not a scary thing. and i really do welcome the dialogue. i got it last time too.

and i really want it as i sit to wait and pick up kids at school. allows them dialogue too.

kids are so good, and i have particpated in school and am known and liked. they cant be hateful. which opens conversation. that is a good thing

etc.

I felt it was extremely important in this area for people to KNOW the whole state of Texas isn't in love with the elephant, or its riders.

unless you "felt a compulsion to let others know how you feel which is an indicator of an egocentric personality." :)

All political activists share their opinions with others in one way or another, whether through bumper stickers, letters to the editors, conversations, or protests.

just have to wash car and take off the two little stickers i have had on that i was given at the convention. they werent meant for the car and i think one is truly stuck on. bummed. but i look forward to my sticker and the conversation that will develop from having sticker on car, as school is ready to start and i will be driving kids into a middle school where those kids think obama is muslim and he will put all blacks into his positions....

and would get more, plus tshirts, caps in about ten days.

Tech starts back up.

I live paycheck to paycheck. I just cant afford to fix my car if someone damaged it or to pay a ticket if some cop was a McCain fan and decided to be a jackass. When driving I try to do nothing to draw attention to myself.

Sad yes, I know.

But I'm afraid to wear one. Why don't they just put a target on the back?

Right to Life
Gay anything
"socialized healthcare"

I can see someone losing their last nerve over a job loss, medical issue, hair raising sermon by a neocon pastor, death in family ...all kinds of things...don't forget the whole housing thing and price of everything increasing.

some people turn inward and harm themselves and some harm others first.

and some just seethe some more until whatever gets that nerve again, hits it.

so muc believes in education. his daughter, he cannot send to public. because of circumstances he went to home school. and been really disappointed. in essence screwed up her education cause of absolute, such unreasonable hate of public. i can see something like this creating so much anger, and helplessness from his own action to trigger.

I'm not a fan, and it's part of professional integrity to keep my politics out of my professional life, anyway. I'm parked 20 yards away from my classroom door, since I'm out of the building in a portable added to accomodate growth.

I don't know that I'd feel threatened, but I understand those who might. Racism is certainly alive and well in the U.S., and has a particularly violent history.

No political stuff on any cars belonging to the staff.

but they can put anything they want in the yard. So our Outreach Director had me get her a Kerry sign in 04 as soon as she found out the County Org was ordering a bunch


..... in 2004 we had to beg down here for signs, Texas was basically written off


......in 2008 Obama has three (3) campaign offices in Fort Worth alone, and hit the ground running down here. Our party Org has yard signs left over from primary you can take but I am waiting for the full ticket ones. We will have a little parade of them on my side of the street soon as they come out.

though i know teachers have differing views, i expect/demand they allow children voice. they do and have and i value and appreciate that. me and mine could handle a teacher offering view adn respecting the difference. but a lot of people dont and cant handle that

my job is to keep it civil and make sure there is no political bullying going on from, or toward, any side. They know that I will not take sides; when asked my opinion my response is always "no comment."

One day I did hear a student, after my "no comment" response, lean in to her neighbors and whisper, "You know she hates Bush. She loves literacy and thinking; she's smart. How could she like Bush?"

I can report that, in this rural red area, for the last 3 years only about 10% of my student population supported GWB. I know, because it ALWAYS comes up when we are working on persuasive speeches and essays, and debates.

Last spring, there was NO conversation about McCain, lots of energetic discussion of HRC and Obama, with them slightly favoring HRC.

after I put on a Moveon.org bumper sticker.... This Endless War.

It was slashed in Fayetteville, NC... I was thinking about putting my Obama sticker on my car today.

I was at a bar off of Owen Drive when mine was slashed. They also tried to black out the sticker with what looked like a shoe print... I think they did this b/c it is an anti-war sticker. Fayetteville is a scary place if you are anti-war. Just look at what happened to this family not to long ago:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1173070/

Marine base is over on the coast. My Marine Brat husband lived there umpteen times while his dad was in the Corps.

so do you think it was the anti war sentiment that got them, rather than the implied party affiliation?

The anti-war feel doesn't make it far around these parts. I can honestly say I have been followed and harassed by people associated or in the military b/c of the stickers on my car. But that was around 2004 when the other incidents occurred. Nowadays there aren't many troops home b/c they are all deployed overseas. I still get these looks whenever I am in traffic, like they want to tear my throat out. Most of the stickers/magnets you see here are the ones that say, "Support The Troops".

troops ...and actually how can they vent their grief and resentment at having their loved one in danger 24/7/365?

Not saying they should get violent just saying I understand how they might feel about it.

I am not worried about my safety. I am a pretty big guy, it would take a few guys to topple this 6'4" frame. I do know that karma will come back on the folks that express resentment for my political beliefs.

Time to put the Obama sticker on my car!

I was in the same bar (where my tire was slashed) and this guy started talking to me about politics. He was a white in his mid 40s. He had recently relocated to the area from Germany. Anyways he was saying this crazy bigoted crap about Obama and how all the blacks would take over if he was elected. I told him straight up that I was a volunteer for his campaign, he she the hell up after I said that.

I've never had anyone even look sideways at me.

Maybe you should just put a McCain sticker on your vehicle if you really believe it would make you so much safer.


Thanks for you concern. :eyes:

You're transparent as hell.

And I was told I was crazy when I said I understood someone not wanting to put an Obama bumper

sticker on their car.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3790216&mesg_id=3790216

See it was someone else who didn't want to put the sticker on their car. After reading it again, are you now able to understand it?

I have a Bill Jefferson sticker on my car as well.

would be ready to kill if a woman were in a position to become president.

I see nothing to back up your theory that people would start killing each other over having a woman in a position to become president. You point to no such evidence in your OP. YET you TRY to state as FACT that there WILL be killings because a black man is in position to become president. You try to use as evidence something you claim you are "waiting" for more information on before coming to a conclusion.

Like I said, you're transparent as hell.

position to become president. The "waiting" was that I was not going to classify the killing in Arkansas as anything until it became known what it was, not to know what these people are capable of doing.

I have known white trash my entire life, and I know that the thought of either Obama or Hillary becoming president is enough to make these people murder. I said in the OP that the same people would have the same reaction to a woman. But apparently once you have decided for others what they typed or think, what they actually typed or think means nothing to you.

Give it up already.

:eyes:

shit.

Imagine the folks that could use that argument whenever they believe someone "deserves" to be slurred. How many of those ethnic slurs will you defend?

I have no more words.

Just... Wow.

Obama yard signs 1 Ron Paul sign right beside the sign that says "thank you Jesus for our house" right beside a sign that says "garage sale-moving" sign.Occasionally go to Indiana, see 1 Ron Paul sign, BUT I see no mclame signs anywhere!!!!:thumbsup:

twice by a group of skinheads ripping out antennas and keying the doors

If you think they're that dangerous, you should get a gun and learn how to use it.

I mean that.

I'm quite certain the odds of dying in a car accident are thousands of times greater than being killed for your Obama sticker.

though i wouldn't have it any other way...

Only thing my O sticker has got me is a post-it on my window from a zealous HRC supporter.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/romulusnr/2588573771/
This was days after O had secured the nom.

bumper sticker on my car. We have an Obama sign in our yard in our very white, very Republican suburb. This is still the United States. We still have our Constitution. I will not be intimidated out of my right to express my views.

We are dealing with people who think that having a different opinion should be a capital crime

One of the things that really struck me hardest during the 00's was the fact that so many of the people I grew up with were in fact cowards. You could see it in how they chose to treat one another- how they pasted their flags and wore their religion on their sleeves.

I thank God that my father wasn't cognizant to have seen most of it; it would have broken his heart.

On the other hand, he- like other swing kids (I use the term loosely) their eyes would have brightened- and hearts been lifted by Ken Livingston (Ironically "Red Ken") -mayor of London when the tube got hit: