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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:11 PM
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Is it NORMAL for Freepers to stalk people?
Julie Hiatt Steele

* In 1999, Julie Hiatt Steele was taking credit-card donations to help pay her legal bills after being charged with obstruction by Ken Starr. When freepers heard of this, they decided to flood her site with illegal fake donations, this was at a cost of around $4,000 for her. (1)

Bar employee in Austin, Texas

* In 2001, members of Free Republic were found to be planning to go to war against a bar employee who called the police when she found that Jenna Bush presented her with what was clearly a fake ID. (1)
* Items posted included her address, date of birth, driver's license number, physical description - and information about her infant child. (1)
* Members of Free Republic suggested to use the information for identity theft, running up massive debts in her name, constant surveillance, to "make this chick paranoid," "go to the bar and pour drinks on her," "pour acid all over the bar," "phone police repeatedly to make phony reports of suspicious activities at her home," and to "set the place on fire while fully occupied." (1)

Tom Connolly

* Connolly sent a fax of George W. Bush's DUI conviction to the media, in retaliation, members of Free Republic sent him magazine subscriptions and other things. One even said that "it might be in order to wipe the smile off of this clown's face." (10)

Andy Stephenson

* In 2005, voting rights activist Andy Stephenson was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. He needed $50,000 so he could receive a lifesaving operation. Friends and allies were able to do this, quickly raising the cash he needed. (2)
* A conservative backlash came soon after, it is not known if Free Republic was the source of it all, but it was one of the war rooms where they launched their campaign against Mr. Stephenson. Specifically, the backlash was to go around and claim that Stephenson was not really sick and that he was participating in fraudulent activities. (2)
* The service Stephenson used to collect the money listened to these allegations and didn't know what to do, they had locked his account, denying him the operation when he needed it.
* On July 7, 2005, Stephenson died from complications related to the surgery and the cancer. (3)

Graeme Frost

* In October of 2007, members of Free Republic had posted information about Graeme Frost, the little boy who had given the rebuttal to one of Bush's radio addresses. (4)(5)(6)(7)
* Information included addresses, maps, photos, information about the house the Frost family lived in, and what school the Frost children went to. (4)(5)(6)(7)

Activities of Chad Castagana

* While not a campaign by members of Free Republic, but rather the actions of one man, Chad Castagana, who was a member of the group, was found to be sending fake anthrax letters to leaders of the Democratic Party and to members of the media. (8)

http://rw-infopedia.pbwiki.com/Stalking-by-members-of-Free-Republic
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:13 PM
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1. I am not sure you can say it's normal for all members.
But it is accurate to say it's tolerated and condoned by the administrators of the website.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:14 PM
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Sure looks like typical Freeper behavior to me.
They also stalk the Code Pinkers who vigil in front of Walter Reed in DC.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:14 PM
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2. Yes, the freepers killed Andy. They delayed his surgery for two weeks
Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 05:18 PM by sfexpat2000
and then delayed his rehab for another two weeks. They're murderous idiots with keyboards.

ETA: I forgot ignorant, perverted and deluded self-serving sink scum who will go straight to their freeper hell.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:15 PM
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3. Yes, but they call it being "Patriots"
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:16 PM
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4. It's Not Normal! It's Typical n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:29 PM
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6. all that and more
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:20 PM
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5. With so many illegal acts being planned on FR why isnt it shut down?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:34 PM
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7. Because it is an integral part of the wingnut echo chamber
How else would the right wing push its agenda without its trusty brownshirts?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:51 PM
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8. Because Those Laws Don't Apply to Repiglicins
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:52 PM
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25. It's Okay if You are a Republican
how could you have forgotten the basic principle of their dogma?
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 05:55 PM
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9. constant surveillance, to "make this chick paranoid,"
This one would have worked the best. Nobody would have believed her.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:01 PM
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10. Evidently!
:puke:
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:15 PM
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11. Yes, it's normal.
Instead of trying to make things better, they spend their time and money to make things worse.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:17 PM
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12. It is an initiation rite to belong to their gang. n/t
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easttexaslefty Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:28 PM
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13. don't know if it's normal
but was sure done to us. We had a weekly halliburton protest here in Texas. They tried to run us down, threw things at us, and yes they were freepers, they were the same ones that harassed us by standing in front of us with their signs, and pushing us. they also hacked the peace center's web-site. Police knew..they were at the protests, they cheered them on
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:32 PM
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14. I remember Andy. First time I've heard the whole story.
If I believed in hell, they would deserve a 'special' place.
It would have something to do with genitals.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:35 PM
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15. That's the first time I've heard it as well.
It happened right around the time I joined DU.

Those people are truly sociopaths. Unfortunately, they do more harm hanging out together than individually.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:39 PM
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16. Their leaders encourage it
From Rush Limbaugh calling Daschle "El Diablo" during much of 2001 to McCain equating Obama with the anti-christ, the freepers (and their ilk) demonize anyone who doesn't fall in line and repeat their mantras. Once they see us as less human than they are it all becomes a game. Unfortunately, it is a game they've taken off-line.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 07:27 PM
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17. WWJD? Aren't freepers Christian? n/t
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 07:38 PM
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18. Al Gore
The DC chapter stood outside the VP residence yelling "Get out of Cheney's house"

"Were you living with your parents during that period? Yes. I took a leave of absence from “Futurama,” and I was home for the 36 days because I felt pretty useless as a comedy writer. They bussed in people who stood outside screaming, “Get out of Cheney’s house.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/magazine/24wwln-Q4-t.html?_r=2&ref=magazine&oref=slogin&oref=slogin


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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 07:45 PM
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19. When I try to tell people what they're dealing with, they don't believe me.
They think I'm over the top, that I've just spent to much time in alternative media and have become paranoid. This stuff isn't an anomaly, this is the heart and soul of the Republican party. Think about Rove and how from the beginning of his miserable career he did the same things. How they break every single law to get what they want, or just rewrite it until the illegal is legal. Sure, there are good Republicans, but the movers and shakers are scum, and so are many many followers.

We are in a viscous streetfight, and they're trying to spill your blood, what will you do?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 08:33 PM
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21. For your "skeptical" "friends" ...
...have you asked them what they believe the purpose of web sites like "Free Republic" is?

To have so many people with a common interest just to chat?

Ask those people who are doubting you to explain themselves.

Make them to back up their claims.

You don't have to prove a thing to them. Their obedience, however, prevents them from seeing beyond their party. All you can do is plant the seed of doubt and step back and let it grow!


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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 08:26 PM
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20. Hell, yes.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 08:41 PM
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22. Operatives paid by the White House use Free Republic to organize dirty tricks.
There are a number of law firms in Atlanta and elsewhere that function as public relations arms for the White House. They include people like Buckhead who posts on FR. Buckhead was the point man for taking down Dan Rather with the fake documents trick. FR is part of a network of well-funded, well-organized operatives that part of bushco's army. They spread lies on the internet, stalk people, destroy people's lives, plan "riots" to disrupt lawful activities like the 2000 recount in Florida...yes, it's normal operating business for people on Free Republic to stalk people and more.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 02:40 AM
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29. Except that the documents were never established as fake
They were never established as original either, of course, because as CBS researcher Mary Mapes pointed out, it is flat out impossible to do that with xeroxed`copies. She regarded them as strictly secondary evidence, and every one of the points that Rather made was corroborated by documents which were established to be genuine. She had the uncorroborated material as part of the document collection because she could not find a single contradiction in them when compared to documents established as genuine.

What the freepers did was to successfully make the secondary documents the entire story.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:35 AM
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32. Exactly. I have no doub that the story is true. I think that Rather was set up.
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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:18 PM
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23. They see themselves as the "real" victims,
thus every thing they do is justified. Driven by fear, they lash out at the world around them like cornered animals, or terrorists for that matter. Fear makes people do crazy things and that makes them dangerous.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:37 PM
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24. my local freepers do. they tracked my here, and posted my posts from
the mental health forum on the local blog. outed me. pointed out where the alderman's son went to high school. took pictures of his house in the afternoon, when the kid (16) was home alone. and recently posted photographs of the alderman's garbage.
they call the alderman, and anyone who supports him all manner of names. make shit up. one of the alderman's staff is a large woman, that they stalked her, took pictures and posted them under the heading of "whale watching". but they freak out when anyone takes pictures of them.
sadly, i could go on. but i am tired.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 11:59 PM
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26. hey mo.....there are freepers in chicago?
i was born in chicago and you can't get your water turned on there unless you're a democrat. and that's the way it should be.

i left in 1990 and i don't remember any freeptards. are they living out in the burbs?

next time i go home for a visit, we'll have to hook up again with the other chicago DUers and have a tar and feather party with any chicago land area freepfilth and run the scum out of town.

by the way...i bet freeptards put ketchup on a chicago dog so they'd be easy to identify.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:23 AM
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31. well, with the invention of the internets, we now know
that they live in mamma's basement here, too. we have quite a pair here in rogers park. i won't link to them, but to see a real pair of crazies google- craig gernhardt and tom mannis. add the handle 'been there' if you want to see what i have been attacked for. c-e-r-t-i-f-i-a-b-l-e. and actually genuinely frightening.
there are a few others up here, too. rogers park supposedly has the most neighborhood blogs in the country. and not a sane liberal in the bunch.

there are more and more rich republicans living in brazillion dollar condos downtown. one of the funders of the swiftboaters lives here, and funded my alderman's opponent in his last election.
(he took on walmart- wouldn't have one in our ward, and passed an ordinance requiring big stores to pay a "living wage". our dem mayor vetoed it!?! and penn and teller did an episode of "bullshit", on walmart bashes, which curiously aired a couple of weeks before the election. )
the guy is the traditional 49th ward liberal. was pretty much the lone liberal in those days, although we got a couple new ones in the last election. but he won by the skin of his teeth.


tar and feathers would be great. i'm right there. we'll tell them there is a bush farewell tour coming through town, and get the worst of them in one fell swoop. maybe a giant bucket of tar from the top of the sears tower.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 12:01 AM
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27. yeah, they definitely killed andy......
....but they did it from the safety of their trailer parks. they're too cowardly to face us in person. i'm not sure why we never got a team of lawyers to imprison the human garbage there that were responsible for andy's death.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 12:06 AM
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28. "Normal" and "FReeper" don't belong in the same sentence.
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 12:07 AM by TahitiNut
:shrug:



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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 02:41 AM
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30. More data that needs to go into the Research section n/t
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:59 AM
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33. How fucking sick do you have to be to put a LITTLE KID'S information up online?
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 10:59 AM by seawolf
If that's not an attempt to lure pedophiles/murderers in the kid's direction, I'll eat my hat.
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