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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 06:57 AM
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Remember when murdering a million people used to really mean something?
Hell, you can kill over a million innocent people, and 4000 plus soldiers simply for monetary gain, and nobody even notices. Amazing ain't it?

Whenever I mention this horrific number of murdered Iraqis to anyone, I get the thousand yard stare. I don't think anyone really believes me. I feel like that guy running down the street screaming at the end of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers".

Hell, I guess ANYTHING goes now huh?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:00 AM
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1. Anything goes only if the bullies are the aggressors/war criminals
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/14/russia.georgia

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The outcome of six grim days of bloodshed in the Caucasus has triggered an outpouring of the most nauseating hypocrisy from western politicians and their captive media. As talking heads thundered against Russian imperialism and brutal disproportionality, US vice-president Dick Cheney, faithfully echoed by Gordon Brown and David Miliband, declared that "Russian aggression must not go unanswered". George Bush denounced Russia for having "invaded a sovereign neighbouring state" and threatening "a democratic government". Such an action, he insisted, "is unacceptable in the 21st century".

Could these by any chance be the leaders of the same governments that in 2003 invaded and occupied - along with Georgia, as luck would have it - the sovereign state of Iraq on a false pretext at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives? Or even the two governments that blocked a ceasefire in the summer of 2006 as Israel pulverised Lebanon's infrastructure and killed more than a thousand civilians in retaliation for the capture or killing of five soldiers?

You'd be hard put to recall after all the fury over Russian aggression that it was actually Georgia that began the war last Thursday with an all-out attack on South Ossetia to "restore constitutional order" - in other words, rule over an area it has never controlled since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Nor, amid the outrage at Russian bombardments, have there been much more than the briefest references to the atrocities committed by Georgian forces against citizens it claims as its own in South Ossetia's capital Tskhinvali. Several hundred civilians were killed there by Georgian troops last week, along with Russian soldiers operating under a 1990s peace agreement: "I saw a Georgian soldier throw a grenade into a basement full of women and children," one Tskhinvali resident, Saramat Tskhovredov, told reporters on Tuesday.

Might it be because Georgia is what Jim Murphy, Britain's minister for Europe, called a "small beautiful democracy". Well it's certainly small and beautiful, but both the current president, Mikheil Saakashvili, and his predecessor came to power in western-backed coups, the most recent prettified as a "Rose revolution". Saakashvili was then initially rubber-stamped into office with 96% of the vote before establishing what the International Crisis Group recently described as an "increasingly authoritarian" government, violently cracking down on opposition dissent and independent media last November. "Democratic" simply seems to mean "pro-western" in these cases.
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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:32 AM
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8. Looking IN from the OUTSIDE...
I have been simply AWE-STRUCK by the failure of Congress to impeach Bush and Cheney since 2003. I am literally beside myself in disbelief.

This is the country that impeached a sitting president for lying about an extra-marital blow-job? Shit - EVERY politician lies about extra-marital blow-jobs!

How can Congress, the Supreme Court and the Senate just SIT THERE, day after day, looking at these disgusting war criminals?

Afghanistan, Iraq...It continues with the Georgian mess...I feel like I am living in some parallel universe where the words "accountability" and "culpability" do not exist.

It is simply beyond me - it CAN'T just be POLITICS, can it?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:58 AM
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10. I feel like I am living in some parallel universe
A complete inversion of reality. Up is down. Lies are truth. Occupation is freedom. Democracy means corporations are in charge.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:09 AM
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2. And a skeptical sumbitch (like me)
could say that they were murdered in the name of Jesus Christ to advance the "values" of the republican party.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:27 AM
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4. Religous beliefs are responsible for many deaths and much suffering
I, for the life of me, can not understand anyone who can believe in JC as blind faith is not for me.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:15 AM
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3. Stalin Said..
...(something like), "One death is a tragedy -- One million deaths is a statistic."
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katukov Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:02 AM
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14. Bush and Stalin
Pair of peas in a pod.

I think Stalin is ahead on points, like about 30 million to 1 million, but it's the thought that counts.
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:16 AM
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15. I guess Cheny/Bush might say...
I million deaths are a statistic -- 30 million are history...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:31 AM
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5. 1,252,595
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:01 AM
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6. When the guys ordering the killing also own 90% of the media...
this is what you get.

Fuck up the economy enough and even less people pay attention.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:14 AM
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7. What infuriates me is that the progressive talkshow host
wont even go near the number. Most seem to be scared of the truth. Anytime anyone tells me that its not true, I say this..."You believed the number 400,000 was correct when discussing Saddams murders. The same folks are giving us the 1.2 million numbers but you refuse to acknowledge them. You dont have the right to pick and choose, just to suit your prejudices." That usually shuts them up.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:33 AM
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9. Why you never see interviews with Iraqi citizens
The American public might get a taste of their anger.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:00 AM
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11. xxxxxxxxxx
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:04 AM
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12. You gotta think big
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:10 AM
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13. ROFL. Swampy!!! Yer Killing Me!!!!
:rofl:

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